This WC is cheapened by the fact that Kenya and Zimbabwe are going to Super Sixes because of match boycotts and politics. Put the damn event in a country where no one has a problem playing. I would prefer that the tournament be held in the same few countries over and over again rather than have results tainted by boycotted matches.
It is also pathetic that weather has played such a huge role in this WC. Either don’t plan the WC in a country during its rainy season, or use reserve days to play matches affected by rain.
What an overall disaster that the ICC should take responsibility for and learn from for next time.
I don't think that the political problems were too bad when the tournament was organised. UK govt onl;y really made an issue of it in the last couple of months.
As for the weather, yeah I agree. Because of all this, as a spectacle we have a redundant world cup.
No England, Pakistan, South Africa or West Indies. And all of them have fallen victim to circumstances out of their control to some extent, instead of these things being settled on the pitch.
Yep, same sentiments here. But I blame old dogs England and NZ for ruining the cup not only for themselves but for other teams and millions of fans. As I suggested earlier if a team decided to boycott one match in a tournament, it should be banned from participation at all.
South Africa was/is a great country to host WC. My favorite country would be Australia to hold any sort of tournament.
Well, the next WC will be in West Indies. I am not sure how these laid back islanders will handle a mega event. They are on vacation 6 months out of the year . Being in the states, I plan on going to Super Six matches. Let’s see.
Well, I think NZ and England were genuinely concerned for their players’ safety. I don’t blame them, to be quite honest. But it makes me angry beyond belief that Kenya is going there. What a damn farce. I think the thrashing by WI today was yet another indicator of how much of a farce this is.
And as for the weather, what happened to SA yesterday is so sad.
All this sounds like sour grapes to me. Would these messages/comments have been posted IF pakistan had qualified for the Super 6s... or is this just a coincidence, eh?
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All this sounds like sour grapes to me. Would these messages/comments have been posted IF pakistan had qualified for the Super 6s... or is this just a coincidence, eh?
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No England, Pakistan, South Africa or West Indies. And all of them have fallen victim to circumstances out of their control to some extent, instead of these things being settled on the pitch.
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Well, as painful as it may be to admit, I think Pakistan dug it's own grave by losing to India and England. There was really no realistic way to recover from that.
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All this sounds like sour grapes to me. Would these messages/comments have been posted IF pakistan had qualified for the Super 6s... or is this just a coincidence, eh?
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This is not about Pakistan. It is about SA and WI getting screwed as Kenya was handed free points by NZ. And same for ZIM getting free points from England.
This does not involve Pakistan - they lost the matches so there is nothing to complain about.
Obviously the weather is going to favour some matches and not others, But the biggest winner in all these matches seems to be the weather.
It should'nt be allowed to take up complete control of the crictical matches like it has done. Something has to be doen like the good idea of reserve days for rain affected matches.
Also the matches should be played in a country with none of this human rights bull crap.
Losing to India, fair enough - the loss to england really hurt us though and in that one the toss was crucial. That's just where you get a lucky break or not. D/N matches are not a fair contest so I don't reall count that one as anyone's fault. if we won the toss we'd have won.
I think this was worst of all previous world cups. many matches were messes up by rain, D/L system, many teams even umpires refused to play. Teams such as Kenya, Bdesh, Canada, Holland should not have been in wc.
Bad luck for SA, Eng. D/L system should be modified; SA lost 2 of its important matches because of this system. I don't know why they had to choose rainy season... ICC is bunch of ...
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i still can't believe we won't see SA-Aus in this tournament what a shame! As well, NZ-Pak WI-Ind would all have been enticing. it is a joke that kenya and zim have made it. even if england had made it, that would have been eventful since they've improved drastically. i'm not sure what you all are doing on march 12 but i'll tell you what i WON'T be doing, i won't be watching the key encounter between ZIM and KENYA.
sadly the "SUPER SIX" is actually a race to avoid being 2nd or 3rd since the winner of that match will be decied by a coin toss (in effect, it's a D/N match)
btw, if you look at the new super six tables, you'll see that kenya have a really good chance of making the semi-finals since NZ need to win 2 out of 3 (they'll beat ZIM but will struggle against IND and AUS). what a bloody shame this tournament has become a debacle.
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Ah well, leave it to the ICC haraamis to screw up this wonderful event.
I just can't get over Kenya and Zimbabwe being in the Super Six as a result of the system...
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What kind of nonsense you are talking ?? Did you know that Zimbabwe went to super six in last world cup also ?? Kenya did beat Sri Lanka another Super Six team. What is your problem ?? Sour Grapes ??
anyway, it's just a lamentation for a better tournament. WI would have made it to the super six if not for their tie with bangladesh. SA came 5 runs short of WI, scored 300 against NZ and were one run shy of SL so they were still a great side and deserved to go through. the ZIM of 99 was in a different class than this one, that did not beat a decent team throughout the tournament.
some good cricket is still in store for us and an Australia-India final looks to be on the cards. but these next few weeks will not be a showcase for how great cricket can be, tis all.
What kind of nonsense you are talking ?? Did you know that Zimbabwe went to super six in last world cup also ?? Kenya did beat Sri Lanka another Super Six team. What is your problem ?? Sour Grapes ??
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You mean if New Zealand had played their game in Kenya they would have lost?
Or if England had played in Zimbabwe they would have lost?
If Bengladesh had played WI on a reserve day, BD would have tied the result with equal scoring?
TUMS - Your case can be described as ‘SOUR GRAPES’ at best. Now that your team didn’t qualify for the Super six then you guys have started cribbing that all the fun is lost because SA and WI are gone. SA & WI ke liye itna pyar kab se ??
My second point, If you think that SA,WI, PAK should have been there in the super Six otherwise there is no fun, then what is the point of having a World Cup Tournament ?? Just bring the top six teams of the world and host the tournament.
Pak is not there because - they didn’t win because of its poor performance and not because of some Stupid rule.
SA is not there because of their poor performance and not because of any stupid rule, They lost to WI,NZ and were going to lose to SL. And dont give me the BS of SA losing by 5 runs. truth is they lost it fair and square, their effor was not good enough. What if they scored 300+ against NZ - NZ also scored 230+ runs in 35 overs and might have made the 300+ score. Against SL they needed 50 in 5 overs with 4 wickets in hand - match could have gone either way. Plus Pollock admitted that they made a mistake in calculations, so they have to pay for it.
WI - lost to SL,NZ and were unlucky that their game against BD was washed out, but that is part and parcel of the game, no ??
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You mean if New Zealand had played their game in Kenya they would have lost?
Or if England had played in Zimbabwe they would have lost?
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Is it the fault of Kenya and Zimbabwe that NZ & England didn't go to those countries to play ? are you telling me that NZ & England should have been awarded the point for those games ??
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If Bengladesh had played WI on a reserve day, BD would have tied the result with equal scoring?
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What If it rained the next day ? or the day after or the whole week ? Are you suggesting that we should not abandon such matches ?? Buddy go and read the history of world cup before you ever come here start questioning those rules.
Lastly - what is the point in cribbing about the rules now, every country agreed to play on those terms so why crib now ? Would you have cared or cribbed so much If Pakistan had reached super six ?
What a farce...NZ boycott match but still go throu!! and havin no reserve day in rainy season is a skool boy error (like sum commenters say) and also the way Super Six works, probally see the worst side in super six make it to da semi-finalz!!!!
. Being in the states, I plan on going to Super Six matches. Let’s see.
that Kenya is going there. What a damn farce. I think the thrashing by WI today was yet another indicator of how much of a farce this is.