ICC imposes sanctions: Salman Butt out for 10 years, Asif 7 & Amir 5

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http://blog.dawn.com/2011/02/06/banned-cricketers-only-emulated-their-heroes/
As the above blog says, these guys were just following their heroes of nineties. Wasim Akram was one of the biggest match-fixers who got away with his crimes.
In the present team it feels awful to see shameless opportunists like Kamran Akmal still playing.

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No statements from the PCB yet? What about Pak's UK ambassador?

I would want the PCB to come out and ban these players for life... atleast Asif and Butt. Do Pak fans really want to see Butt and Asif play again??

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^ PCB has washed their hands of these three satay baaz so no need for them to act, especially as the criminal case is still pending. Do you really think that butt and Asif will be able to come back after five years. Pak cricket will have to be in a very weak and sorry state if it will need Butt back, asif will be past it anyway.

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thats true ehsan.. if you ask me these bans really are life bans in disguise.. for butt and asif for sure.. even for amir it will be really hard for him to keep in shape and only play club cricket and support himself financially and be able to come back after 5 years..

its like the 5 yr ban for jadeja back in the day.. he was young when he got the ban but still he was not able to come back... of course jadeja came from an affluent background so he got other things going and lost touch with cricket.. not sure what Amir would do....

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^ tough for Aamir and I genuinely feel sorry for him but if this episode gets rid of satay bazi from our team than it will have been worth it.

has anyone noticed improvement in Kamrans keeping? ;)

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That’s not possible, this satay bazi was, is, and will always be here…

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They can make an appeal to CAS “Court of Arbitration for Sports” [in Switzerland] (if I’m not wrong) untill 21 days:rolleyes:**
**Coz the decision was for a “match fixing” case and not a “spot fixing” case… Is there a sanction for a spot fixing case or it should be revisited ?

silently moves out of this thread**

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Imran Khan made his debut in 1971 at the age of 18. He then played no international cricket for 3 years because of Oxford education. He next played for Pakistan in 1974

Aamir should similarly use this time wisely and do some course like BA or BBA which will stand him in good stead and be advantageous in the future

just a thought..

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These are nice thoughts. But remember that we are talking about a guy who was sporting a t-shirt about legalizing marijuana when he went to one of his hearings.

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yeah...but Pakistan govt should support and fund his education so he can make a comeback or maybe the sports ministry should do it. Otherwise forget it since he won't be able to make ends meet as they say...and will have to choose *kheti bari *or something for livelihood.

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^ Kheti bari would be better for his fitness than a BA in classical poetry. Pakistan government should support bright kids with a future in, say 'practical aspects' of our national life rather than sattay baaz sports-people.

He should never be selected again for Pakistan team as that would create another bad precedent.

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ok im not defending them

but some points are there to be noted

ICC gave punishments for match fixing not for spot fixing .....the one who announed said it him self there was no rule for spot fixing .....

and what about mazhar why scotland yard didnt take any action against him or even ICC.....they just banned our players if they want to get rid of all this then remove the roots

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mazhar is being prosecuted and will appear in court along with the satay baaz. What action can ICC take against him, ban him from playing cricket? :konfused:

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Hand him over to the police…or scotland yard should not have let him free ..

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he is on bail and will appear in court

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thats cool now

so will these three player will get jail too in UK

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Where is JI? No big rallies for this conspiracy against an Islamic Country players?

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If proven guilty they can serve jail terms of up to 7 years. Maybe they will just get fined or suspended jail terms.

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:hmmm:

thats interesting …

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my question is where is that ghairat brigade. why are these guys not grilled by media like veena malik. afterall she wasnt representing pak but these guys were.

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‘To gain an honest system, you have to lose something’

   ESPNcricinfo staff

February 6, 2011

    *A look at the wide variety of reactions triggered by the spot-fixing verdict*

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“I am genuinely upset over the bans on three key, young and talented players. It was great humiliation for the people of Pakistan as the kind of ignominy it brought made people more demoralised than the floods in the country. The sad part of this whole corruption episode is that most of the people sitting at important places in Pakistan are corrupt and with that prevailing what sort of signal we are giving to our youth? When the match-fixing scandal first surfaced in 1995 and we had judicial inquiry, even at that time the PCB mishandled the case as they were scared that if they ban some key players then team will lose and the Board will be sacked. Until and unless we have an elected Board who takes decisions on merit and without fears of being sacked we cannot have a proper domestic system and we won’t be able to avoid controversies like this spot-fixing thing.”
Imran Khan, speaking to AFP, asks for a systemic change in the administration of Pakistan cricket.
“I feel sad for all three of these kids, two just over 20 and one just 18. I feel for their families because they are key players. This is a low for Pakistan cricket. Not only for cricketers in Pakistan, but also for the players of the world, this should be a lesson, and I sincerely hope that the ICC has set an example with this verdict and this will serve as a clean-up, not only in Pakistan cricket, but in world cricket.”
Wasim Akram hopes the sanctions will prove a deterrent in the future.
“All three players were the future of Pakistan cricket, so it’s a very upsetting day. All three had promising careers but it’s sad that they fell into a trap and couldn’t recover. They could have earned more through playing international cricket. I think this should serve as a jolt for the PCB who should have curbed this before it happened.”
Iqbal Qasim believes the investigation has shown up the inefficiency in the Pakistan board.
“To gain an honest system, and have unquestionable integrity, you have to lose something and players come and go - this will be a momentary loss for Pakistan cricket.”
Rashid Latif is confident that the verdict will be to the benefit of Pakistan cricket in the long run.
“The ICC had decided to give punishments to the players because there was too much pressure on them to curb fixing. It’s an important day for world cricket and very sad for Pakistan. Amir and Asif are a huge loss.”
*Sarfraz Nawaz says the bans were to be expected since the ICC was under pressure. *

"In my book no player is indispensable and cannot be replaced. Nothing is greater then the honour and name of the country. I was expecting these bans but it came as a surprise that their was no leniency shown to Amir."
Zaheer Abbas tells PTI that he thinks Amir got a harsh sentence. (agree with that)
“The PCB has no jurisdiction to challenge the bans as this is a matter between the ICC and the players.”
PCB chairman Ijaz Butt says the players are on their own if they want to appeal the verdict.
“Honestly speaking, to me, anyone who tries to play around with the sacred nature of this sport he deserves longer bans, especially Salman Butt.”
Former PCB chief Arif Abbasi supports the tribunal’s verdict.
“Amir can still make a comeback because he has age on his side, but it is good for him to learn his lesson at this stage.”
Former ICC president Ehsan Mani believes Amir can serve his ban and return to the highest level.
“The important things with any punishment for those sorts of things is that it sends a very strong message to people that might be tempted to do it in the future… that if you do it then your career is going to be substantially reduced if not completely destroyed.”
*England captain Andrew Strauss agrees the punishments can serve as a deterrent
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