IAF Capabilities vs PAF Power

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@_Lahore_Ka_Cheetah

Buddy, all of this information is available on the net and in the papers. But its funny how you come to forums like these where most people barely know anything about defence, and potray the IAF (and it’s inventory) as some mighty, invincible force. If you are going to use this excuse of ‘Su-30mki defeating F-15C’, atleast provide the variables/restrictions on which the excercise was done.

Which paper? I saw only arrogant Americans on forums writing what you are professing! I didn’t bring the topic of SU-30MKI vs F-16 but some of my Paki fellows were mocking the IAF’s planes and skills of its pilots. I referred to it to prove my point regarding this and I think after I was done most of them are just busy showing their religious JINGOISM (not with the help of Aircraft but words)! Go Pakistan!

@_Lahore_Ka_Cheetah

There is no point in debating whether one unit of plane is better than another, because in real warfare, aerial combat is not done on unit vs unit basis.

IAF, is the world’s** fourth largest air force** after those of the United States, Russia and China; and operates more than 1430 Combat Aircraft viz.,

( IAF’s Combat Aircraft fleet )
Sukhoi Su-30MKI Flanker-H 80+
**Dassault Mirage 2000 39 **
MiG-29 Fulcrum 56
Jaguar 114
MiG-27 ML Flogger 120
MiG-23 20
MiG-21 Fishbed 228

Sukhoi Su-30MKI
Comparable aircraft

• Dassault Rafale
• Eurofighter Typhoon
• F-15E Strike Eagle

Dassault Mirage 2000
Comparable aircraft

• Chengdu JF-17 Thunder
• F/A-18 Hornet
• F-16 Fighting Falcon
• HAL Tejas
• IAI Lavi
• JAS 39 Gripen
• Mikoyan MiG-29
• Mitsubishi F-2

**MiG-29 Fulcrum
**Comparable aircraft

• F/A-18 Hornet
• F-16 Fighting Falcon
• Dassault Mirage 2000
• HAL Tejas

Jaguar
Comparable aircraft

• A-7 Corsair
• Mikoyan MiG-27
• Mitsubishi F-1
• Soko J-22 Orao

MiG-27 ML Flogger**
Comparable aircraft**

• A-7 Corsair II
• Panavia Tornado
• SEPECAT Jaguar
• Soko J-22 Orao
• Sukhoi Su-17

MiG-23
Comparable aircraft

• Dassault Mirage F1
• F-4 Phantom II
• General Dynamics F-111
• Shenyang J-8

**MiG-21 Fishbed
**Comparable aircraft

• English Electric Lightning
• Dassault Mirage III
• Lockheed F-104 Starfighter
• McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II
• Northrop F-5 Freedom Fighter/Tiger II

Pakistan Air Force Combat Aircraft fleet
**JF-17 Thunder 10 ](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-10)Lockheed Martin F-16A/B 44
Chengdu F-7P/PG 227
Miarge III/V 152
Nanchang A-5 48
**
Total 481

F-7 is a copy[1]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-7#cite_note-0) of the Soviet Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21. (he he)

Miarge III/V
Comparable aircraft

• Chengdu J-7
• F-102 Delta Dagger
• F-106 Delta Dart
• Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 (LOL)
• Saab 35 Draken
• Sukhoi Su-9
• Sukhoi Su-11

Chengdu F-7P/PG
Comparable aircraft

• MiG-19 (Holy Crap)
• English Electric Lightning
• Dassault Mirage III

Nanchang A-5 Developed from Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-19 / (Jesus)

• HAL HF-24 Marut
• Soko J-22 Orao
• Sukhoi Su-7
• A-4 Skyhawk
• Dassault Étendard IV

**LOL, Pakistanis critcize IAF’s MIG-21s eventhough some of their aircrafts (Nanchang A-5) are even worse than that. Except 10 JF-17 and 44 F-16A/B none of your aircrafts are more capable than MIG-21. Now, who will take care of IAF’s 80+ Su-30MKIs, 39 Dassault Mirages 2000 , 56 MiG-29s, 114 Jaguars, 120 MiG-27s and 20 MiG-23s.

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@_Lahore_Ka_Cheetah

Also, I fail to understand why the F-16 is obsolete; please elaborate.

Truly speaking, I exaggerated a bit but this plane will be decommissioned from USAF from 2011 onwards to make room for F-35 Lightning II.

@_Lahore_Ka_Cheetah

Are you sure that the Russian-American military aircraft generational ratio is 1:1?

No one can answer that question with proof unless he is God! Just to support my point - this question can play havoc with any forum cointaining Russians and Americans!