I think we're at war!

and regardless of what people may say if it’s our war or not, we’re at war. Probably when it started it wasnt our war but it IS our war now. Tribes have started fighting along side Pak army against foreign intrusion. Now Pakistani people and some political parties need to understand and acknowledge this foreign threat and get on board with the gov’t and the army to root it out once and for all. Now that we ARE at war, let’s see it through to the end.

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Surely it is our war, and the sooner the nation realize the better.. Else we are heading to a big dis-integration.

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^^

maybe its unavoidable that the NWFP and Balouch go.

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^may be our govt is stupid and is going to sell every single person out and eventually govern no one?wow

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No one needs to tell me that Pak is a mess. Frankly, I dont see how Pak can survive in the LR, short of brutal force holding it together. The Pashtun's are loyal at all, nor the Balochi people. Punjab and Sindh would be a sorry return on what once was a giant country.

Thank you for reminding us yet again that Pakistan = Punjab and Sindh in many peoples minds.

Where was the effort to build a Pakistani identity? We don't even need to begin to talk about the sidelining of the two Western provinces.

I don't think thats what he implied.

Well he can clarify. Even if thats not the implication, I am stating the obvious right?

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Indeed, yes indeed, its our war today against the tribes , it will be our war against Baloch tomorrow, in near future we will hold our guns against Pashtoons and finally bayonet of our army will skin the punjabis. It does not take long to make a terrorist, or to declare a terrorist
Indeed its our war and we got to fight it till death...........

My O MY, what a pitty

its like go kill your neighbor and ask him not to blink or raise his eye brow.....

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Bingo. Its good to see folks like you stepping up. Either we're all equal Pakistanis or let us go our separate ways.

It was not what I implied at all. I say that trends suggest that a Pakistan may break-up, leaving only the 2 states of P and S together as 'Pakistan'.

In the longest run, generations ahead, would that be a worse case outcome? Not sure.

It would reduce us to a strategic nothing, but we are that anyway with India/China in the area. We could confine the Islamic law loving Pashtuns to their own land, and have a buffer between us and the animals who live in Afghanistan.

Punjab/Sindh are about 90% of the economy too...so we'd not miss too much productivity.

I support union, but we have to be realistic here.

^ its that mindset that to me spells prob, are u sure every single person in punjab and sindh agrees with you? For i am a punjabi and i know many people who would consider this kind of talk lowest form of treachery to fellow pakistanis = pashtoon, baloch. i cant fathom to those who think pakistan is a lost cause why does it even matter what pakistanis should or should not do. cut your loses and be done with it idher your maujoodgi chay der mani

You initially stated you did not imply that Pakistan = Sindh + Punjab, yet in effect you are saying that Sindh + Punjab are 90% of the economy so Pakistan would be fine losing the two Western provinces.

I say cheers, you guys are Persianized Indians anyways, so maybe India would be the final destination..hey lets be realistic right?

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^ right on, they hardly like anything pakistan ,why not move to india?

Exactly. Here we are fighting for Pakistan's unity and stability, yet there are people whose brilliant analysis says: why bother, lets tear the federation apart.

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no one is more pro-pak unity then me. i am just stating what the data tells us.

There are lies, there are white lies and then there are statistics......

this what data is all about...friend

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^^ legbreak dont just look at data, go visit pakistan too, and visit balouchistan and NWFP as well.

I tell you what, why even bother with punjab and sindh too. Lets rejoin punjab with indian punjab and sindh with rajasthan provice of india. After all the cultures are similar, the languages are similar. The people are similar. All that rola about a separate nation was bollocks. We can all live happily ever after and watch bollywood movies together. Right?

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you are being silly, but if you ask me do i prefer to hang out with rabid muslims from the north, or laid back hindu/sikhs...the latter win.