…that on this website even though the guys regularly take the piss and much around, they usually have the far more level headed approach to any situation.
They take a stand, defend it and 99.99999% of the times it is the logical and moral thing to do. I am confused as to why that is.
I can find many many more that provide ample evidence in this regard. Now the unique thing is that us guys for the most part do not even speak to each other. I am never gonna PM any of these wankers, yet we get it. Odd.
I guess its genetics and stuff. Or the will of Allah that we just have our head screwed on right.
It is interesting isn't it? None of the men who post in Life 1 are from the same country, religious background, economic background, cultural background etc. We differ on everything when it comes to Politics, religion and society. But 99 times out of a 100 we always have the same out look on life.
I may differ with you and RAW on religion and other things related to societal constructs but I usually agree with what you post with regards to Life 1 issues. The same applies to other men. There is a syncing of minds and its not forced at all. More importantly we do not have any contact outside of this forum. We don't chat, we don't exchange e-mails or phone calls. So how does this common view point arise amongst the men who post here?
I think it has more to do with the women's need for taking a simple matter, blowing it out of proportion, a cynical and pessimistic analysis and interpretation followed by drawing negative conclusions out of it, and giving the most emotional, obviously foolish advice reflecting their own fears, insecurities and uncertainties, and then joining hands with the whole sistah-feministah squad to defend their stance just to satisfy their whimsy sense of superior intelligence.
Or it could just be that they are just more sensitive, emotionally insightful and observant. <--- that makes me go awww.
Yes i would agree with your point … esp the part where guys dont keep tabs on each other the most they do i would imagine is PM here on GS for views or somat but unlike .. lasses would exchange emails, digits etc and they know about each other .. poori family history lol ..
so i would conclude that it certainly looks that its the genetics of being a male and that the male mind is far more advanced / wise much more relaxed no matter wat the sittuation .. and hence .. us guys have to go thru this day in day out with our partners …out side in the field of work / offices .. we tend to take a stand whereas ladies .. they re one thing one moment and different the next … but one word sticks out like a sore thumb to me is that women are more ‘speculative’ …
jaisay punjabi mein kahawat hai .. *khattiya pahaar nikla chooha * and the ladies would go about this by ..shyd koi aur cheez ho ..kash ma kashh mein rehti hein .. kiya pata kia niklay ga .. aur men .. they knw that the sittuation is only gona have one outcome ..chooha i.e. nothing .. hence the common view point
A friend of mine complained about his wife one day. She had some issue and she wanted to talk to him about it. He, just like you guys tend to do, came back with a succinct solution for her problem. This did not please her - it just made her more upset and he had a WTF moment - feeling as if he couldn't win for trying.
The problem is that men and women view "issues" and the world through different lenses and want different things. A woman complaining about her life or telling others about an issue, is not necessarily looking for a solution, she's looking for someone to hear her out an commiserate with her.
Other women get that need and respond accordingly. If you note, a lot of times womenfolk advise similarly to one another - they have the same understanding of one another and each other psyche's that you guys have for one another, despite, religious practice and geographic locations. Guys appreciate brevity, women appreciate comprehensive and insightful (not flippant).
You guys are constantly complaining and women providing emotional and irrational advice to problems - um, that's not always the case - it's how you perceive the advice to be because it doesn't resonate with your ideas and sense of logic.
Disagree completely Sehrysh. You do not agree with some of the posts women post on a regular basis. Women are regularly arguing with each other in life 1. Every seen two guys in life 1 argue over an issue?
yea…but we don’t go all out attack on the person…and make assumptions about their background, upbringing…call them troll or whatever…as seems to be the hobby of most women here…
and some guppans got so angry (when i did not even say anything to them) they have even wished me death
Disagree completely Sehrysh. You do not agree with some of the posts women post on a regular basis. Women are regularly arguing with each other in life 1. Every seen two guys in life 1 argue over an issue?
Okay, I'll agree women will disagree with one another. But, women are more emotional (and no that does not equate with irrational or irrelevant). Women have a different thought process. Sometimes it surprises me that guys seek to simplify issues - because in the simplification, you miss the nuances of personalities and emotional needs.
And it is total BS to say that it is only women who view the issues through their own insecurities - men do the same as well.
As for men disagreeing - why is it that only politics and world affairs engenders differences of opinions - but interpersonal relationships has a one-size fits all solution?
P.S. I said this before - I detest people who treat me or women as lesser beings and condescend to me based on my gender. Disagree with me - not a problem, but treat me as a lesser being because I'm a woman and you've got my back up and I don't feel obligated to like or respect you in return. Yes, even trolls need to earn my respect.
Okay, I'll agree women will disagree with one another. But, women are more emotional (and no that does not equate with irrational or irrelevant). Women have a different thought process. Sometimes it surprises me that guys seek to simplify issues - because in the simplification, you miss the nuances of personalities and emotional needs.
And it is total BS to say that it is only women who view the issues through their own insecurities - men do the same as well.
As for men disagreeing - why is it that only politics and world affairs engenders differences of opinions - but interpersonal relationships has a one-size fits all solution?
P.S. I said this before - I detest people who treat me or women as lesser beings and condescend to me based on my gender. Disagree with me - not a problem, but treat me as a lesser being because I'm a woman and you've got my back up and I don't feel obligated to like or respect you in return. Yes, even trolls need to earn my respect.
Most issues in life 1 do not need nuances or emotional significance. They are normal and logical issues that require a logical and well designed approach. As for religion, political and cultural issues yes men differ regularly. These forums are openly dominated by men and they argue regularly and viciously. But when it comes life issues they don't. These very same people in life1 will agree but in politics will be at loggerheads. That can be said for a few of our regular posters.
As for why the one size fits all solution to life and relationships? Don't look at me I don't know. But it is an interesting observation. No two men will every get into a spate in life1. Why? No clue but they don't. Thus this thread and by no means are we men all similar. We differ widely in every aspect of our psyche. Yet we agree on most core issues.
Most issues in life 1 do not need nuances or emotional significance. They are normal and logical issues that require a logical and well designed approach. As for religion, political and cultural issues yes men differ regularly. These forums are openly dominated by men and they argue regularly and viciously. But when it comes life issues they don't. These very same people in life1 will agree but in politics will be at loggerheads. That can be said for a few of our regular posters.
As for why the one size fits all solution to life and relationships? Don't look at me I don't know. But it is an interesting observation. No two men will every get into a spate in life1. Why? No clue but they don't. Thus this thread and by no means are we men all similar. We differ widely in every aspect of our psyche. Yet we agree on most core issues.
Point for me eh? :p
Sunshine, it's disappointing that you would suggest interpersonal relationships are cookie cutter in nature and therefore there's a universal or single response to resolving all issues arising from said relationships. You give greater significance to world and political events (not to say, those are not important), but your attitude towards personal relationships comes across as dismissive, whether or not that is the case. And so, I respectfully disagree that the issues are either logical or solved by a "logical" (read: unemotional) response.
As for point to you - sure I'll give a point to you. Yes, most men on GS would appear to be pretty one-dimensional when it comes to Life1 issues and therefore respond similarly, which is in contrast to women posters - but I'll chalk that up to men and women being physiologically different and more important, that women and men are socialized differently.
Sunshine, it's disappointing that you would suggest interpersonal relationships are cookie cutter in nature and therefore there's a universal or single response to resolving all issues arising from said relationships. You give greater significance to world and political events (not to say, those are not important), but your attitude towards personal relationships comes across as dismissive, whether or not that is the case. And so, I respectfully disagree that the issues are either logical or solved by a "logical" (read: unemotional) response.
As for point to you - sure I'll give a point to you. Yes, most men on GS would appear to be pretty one-dimensional when it comes to Life1 issues and therefore respond similarly, which is in contrast to women posters - but I'll chalk that up to men and women being physiologically different and more important, that women and men are socialized differently.
Khush?
My little bumpkins interpersonal relationships are not cookie cutter. The issues plastered on this website are. Since we are provided with a subjective point of view in a vacuum of information, therefore there is only one logical conclusion to a situation where information is limited and one wishes to remain objective. Ladies make subjective interpretations of what is posted from personal bias and apply that to the scenario regardless of its validity. You would agree with that statement correct?
Also lets not go all Star Trek. Logic is not the absence of emotion. It is working with emotion to come to a conclusion which is factual and in best interest of both parties. My attitude or the generic attitude of men to personal issues is ambivalent not dismissive. We do not blow stuff out of proportion as an example with the woman who has a great husband but she feels lonely. Crazy broad. Her issue is neither logical, factually based or with any sign of a thought process. It is completely emotional regardless of the ground realities.
Men and women maybe physiologically different and have different societal roles but each person is in fact an individual where nature molds them separately. This divergence is seen in the women of life1. It is not seen in the men. My question is why?
Gaia you failed to read the post after that where I agree with him. You would be hard pressed to find a man in life 1 who would not be at least a little uncomfortable that his wife had done something similar. Also to date no man has openly stated that is what he wants strippers for his bachelor party. However we have taken the piss out of the idea most definitely.
If everything in the world worked according to the logic of men, no relationships would last.
^bachelor party thread!
One of many examples which contradict the "men have a far more level headed approach to any situation" theory.
The point of this thread isnt about being level headed etc .. its about the ''common view point in the male species'' maybe the thread should have a sub heading just to clarify to the ladies as to what the topic at hand is about .. the quote you quoted .. you should carry on reading .. where CM agrees :@: i.e. the common view point ...
The guys say "we’re objective and therefore constructive with our advice. Fair enough. I’m not denigrating the value of the advice or the consistency with which guys’ advice matches one another. It goes to the frame or lens through which guys are socialized to look at the world.
Women are complex creatures (no more so than than guys, although it may appear that way). We think and feel and react differently, which results in a mutliplicity of responses. I personally don’t apologize for it.
There are times I read what others write, their opinions and their advice and it makes me shake my head and I think, HELL NO! But, ultimately, I respect the multiplicity of opinions and think this is after all just the internet - and you’re bound to come across all sorts who are no more real to me than bits and bytes.
By giving this answer, I am sharing solely my view - others may have a different explanation - and that’s okay.
BTW, bumpkin? Do I come across as some county hick?
