I did not order Lal masjid operation: Musharraf

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Is that seriously coming from you? I really had a different and better impression of you.

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Why a different view than ours / yours is cause of damage of impression? :hmmm:

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It isn’t just a view but a thinking where armed terrorists are some innocent citizens.

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so Musharraf just opened or get opened fire on terrorists? From Drones to May 11, he proved his love for brutality.

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no we should not pat their backs. We should take them to the court and try then, instead of just killing them on streets.

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Is that seriously coming from you? I really had a different and better impression of you.
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There was not even a single innocent citizen in that crowd?

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Mitti pao :hehe:

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It needed to be done. You cannot have armed thugs challenging the government in the heart of a capital. Maybe the way it was done could have been modified so there were little or no innocent causalities.

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Some times ago he blamed Short Kut Aziz and now Ch. Shujaat. I wonder if he was really a true commando or tin commandee:)

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There was ample time given to them to surrender. I mean it isn't like everything was done in a fortnight, the saga was going on for months and the negotiations lasted for weeks. You live in America, tell me if it is OK to flash a gun at a cop?

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There was ample time given to them to surrender. I mean it isn’t like everything was done in a fortnight, the saga was going on for months and the negotiations lasted for weeks. You live in America, tell me if it is OK to flash a gun at a cop?
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No it’s not ok to flash a gun at a cop, but if the flasher has innocent citizen (even one) in his captivity, I can guarantee you that cop is not going to start an open shooting. That is a poor justification to kill innocent citizens that they were amongst the criminals. Exactly the reason why drone attacks are unfair.

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Well said. The writ of the state needs to be established otherwise countries start falling apart. It is important to nab the culprits and punish them through the judicial process. We need some reforms in the judiciary as well.

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No. You are misinformed and siding with the terrorists. There were no innocents who were killed according to the Govt. and those secular humanists. :D

Every single person killed or being killed along with the branded terrorists deserve to die....... regardless if that person unconsciously allowed and oblivious to be in close proximity of the terrorist or was held hostage.

One of our own moderator has agreed with above philosophy arguing against another moderator. ;)

And isn't this what the blockbuster movies show? Kill the civillions if they are being used as shields. We will call them as collateral damage.

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It actually changed my view of TLK for even better than you, thank you very much.

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None of those who were inside Lal Masjid ever been proven to be murderers, thugs and rapists.

You seem to be lost. At least say something related to the thread. :smack:

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Those terrorists were repeatedly asked to lay down their arms and surrender. They didn't. They initiated firing where some were killed. They tested the state authorities to its limits before that final step was taken.

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the step was taken without approval of the chief executive?

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Those arrested in the aftermath of the Lal Masjid operation have since been released by the freaking judiciary on the basis of lacking evidence. They have since been involved in dacoity and other subversive activities. Judiciary doesnt just need reforms, it needs overhaul before the writ of the state can be reinforced thru judicial process.

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Let me tell what they actually were:

  1. Terrorists.

  2. Inciting fassad in the name of Islam.

  3. Gathered sophisticated weaponry not just for self-defense but to the extent as if they have a war at hand

  4. Murderers. murdered civilians and member of forces including lt. col. haroon ul islam. pls note that lt. col was killed before SSG entered the mosque. He was overseeing blasting of peripheral walls

  5. Asked to lay down their arms and surrender to authorities but they wanted to go scot-free. Negotiations conducted. but nothing worked out.

Also do you know, maulana aziz remained the official khatib of the masjid until he was removed in 2005 for issuing a controversial fatwa stating no Pakistani Army officer could be given an Islamic burial if died fighting the taliban. (wikipedia)

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As I said, he is using it as technical defense. perhaps, he didn't issue written orders.