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shez, aren't you in Pakistan? how did you land in UK all of a sudden?
[quote="diwana, post:69, topic:190124"]
^ I tend to agree with you. it maybe a lot of encounters and quite possible depending on where he lives in which surroundings. I have met a girl of 19 who had over 80 men./quote]
agree or disagree?
i highly doubt that number is anywhere near accurate. plus, guys tend to overstate their number of partners. (only repeating what i learned in "American Pie" dont shoot me pplz!)
Re: I am confused.....
Diwana, if that is true...EW.
Re: I am confused.....
Allah subhanawata repeats it again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again
that if u do tobah then ur sin is forgiven :) simple is that, no debate needed.
Re: I am confused.....
more than 100 girls by the age of 17, huh? He must have set a new record.
Utter BS.
I only met her. Nothing to ewwwww about.
[quote=“Sara516, post:48, topic:190560”]
I doubted too. But anything is possible in this world.
I didn’t even argue when someone said platonic relation with young attractive available woman is possible. What do I know…
No one is shooting you. Recent movie, I forgot the name (something about Michelle) had the hero saying 'I am not that kind of man who would be with two women. I even believed that.
That's really nice of Shiraz. But considering Waseem is only 17 and upto all this - how old is Shiraz - I am guessing the same age, right?
Waseem's problem isn't exactly what another 17 year old can handle/change/solve.
p.s. Best way is to lead by example.
Shiraz is also 17...... He (shiraz) is a good friend of mine..... And he will never ever lie to me so i know what he is sayin is right...
As someone else said above they dont belive me (waseem) had sex with over 100 gals...
The guy waseem is a british born.... Hes from Slough near london... and i have been to that place and trust me guyz that place aint that good.... Waseem is like this since he was 14....He told Shiraz he first had sex when he was 14 and after that he continued.... This guyz Waseem is a proper kamina..... He even go after Prostituets as well as other gals and As it is we all know what most of the girs are like nowdays (no offence to gals here).... So yes i know its hard to belive but it is true.....
And its says in our religion if we see someone doing something wrong and we dont stop them than we are also getting Gunnah so in other words....to say the least it is Shiraz duty to show the guy right path and the rest is upto him
Shiraz only see Waseem on Sat - Sun only for like 20-30 mins..... And he wants to explain all this to him and wants to bring him to the right path......
more than 100 girls by the age of 17, huh? He must have set a new record.
Utter BS.
Ever been to london? Trust me where this guy lives (slough) this place is best known for prostitution, drugs dealing, murdering etc etc..... and this guy was born there....so yeah he is like this.....
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When shiraz asked him what do u get out of it...guess what he said....." I live life to the max and i enjoy it....and than Shiraz was about to say" You dont have a clue whats waiting for u after this life" but than he kept quiet....
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wow, his only 17 an drinks and has slept with over a 100 girls. Astagfarullah......
wow, his only 17 an drinks and has slept with over a 100 girls. Astagfarullah......
Yeah even i couldnt believe it.... I was like wtf? In our religion we shouldnt even talk to a girl without a good reason and look at this guy.... Astaghfirullah..... He doesnt have a clue what will happen to him after this life....
I cant belive we have such retards in this world.....
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its normal in foreign … 
i doubt Waseem has slept iwth 100 girls at the age of 17. so on top of being a drinker and a clubber and a fornicator he's a liar :p
:biggthumb
When shiraz asked him what do u get out of it...guess what he said....." I live life to the max and i enjoy it....and than Shiraz was about to say" You dont have a clue whats waiting for u after this life" but than he kept quiet....
Ah the power of teen-age and freedom without check and balances.
A continued effort on the part of his friends and family (if any) is what is needed. No time to give up on him.
He seems to be circling around one axis that is "pleasure".
He is getting money from somewhere to spend on women and booz one can imagine.
Lets hope he realizes the consequences soon or else its gonna be 'sweet'
but very short 'life' for him.
Shez, are you Waseem?
Aastaghfirullah:snooty:…What made u say this?
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Sheesh you ppz...... Try to grab the BIGGGER PICTURE. Story is self-explainatory.
Shiraz needs to look at himself first. If he can control himself and know without shadow of a doubt that he will be able to handle the temptation / encouragements from Waseem - he can think about helping Waseem.
If there is any doubt that he may get into a compromising position, he needs to make some distance between him and Waseem.
If he can control himself and wants to help waseem. Then he has to talk to waseem on his level. Shiraz have to find what does he care for, what he understands and so on. Make him see the bigger picture. If he doesn't care for religion, quoting him from scripture may not be the best way to go. If he cares for his family etc, then draw him a picture how it is destroying his family. Also , he is young he may change but after a year or two - these things become part of him. There is a reason there are alcoholic groups and on. It is v.easy to slip on this slippery slop and loose yourself.....
Ah the power of teen-age and freedom without check and balances.
A continued effort on the part of his friends and family (if any) is what is needed. No time to give up on him.
He seems to be circling around one axis that is "pleasure". He is getting money from somewhere to spend on women and booz one can imagine.
Lets hope he realizes the consequences soon or else its gonna be 'sweet' but very short 'life' for him.
Ok let me giv u more details....
Therez a female who also works in that company.... She one of my best mate and we share almost every storie...she is quite safe...
She told me Waseem parents died when he was young so his chacha and chachi brought him since they never had any childrens... They loved him like their own son gav him everything and sent him to a private school (meaning paid for his fees and those who know private school in london cost a hell of a lot money)....His Uncle & Auntie considered him like thier own son and gave him every khushi they possibly could... But when Waseem grew up he joined a bad company and left his uncle and auntie and not to forget he also insulted them....
And 3 months ago Waseem came from pak and he decided to liv in London where he got this job...So now hes living alone and whatver he earns he spends! Doesnt sav a single penny....
Ok let me giv u more details....
Therez a female who also works in that company.... She one of my best mate and we share almost every storie...she is quite safe...
She told me Waseem parents died when he was young so his chacha and chachi brought him since they never had any childrens... They loved him like their own son gav him everything and sent him to a private school (meaning paid for his fees and those who know private school in london cost a hell of a lot money)....His Uncle & Auntie considered him like thier own son and gave him every khushi they possibly could... But when Waseem grew up he joined a bad company and left his uncle and auntie and not to forget he also insulted them....
And 3 months ago Waseem came from pak and he decided to liv in London where he got this job...So now hes living alone and whatver he earns he spends! Doesnt sav a single penny....
Even though chacha and chachi did whatever they could do best for him after he lost his parents, there might have been a 'gap' which he must have felt.
We may not know what kind of relation he had with chacha and chachi.
Not uncommon to see unusual behaviours like this when people feel something is missing or empty. Not materially but something beyond.
He is in need for combination of real human love and some strictness. I am sure chacha/chachi can be helpful but a close friend is needed the most.
I have seen very well off person thinking of becoming porn-star/stud and eventually become even tableeghi/religious with good guidance and company.