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@hareem01

So you are a fortune-teller! At present he’s working and his older children are also working and some of them are married and have their own families.

So where will he get money to feed his 150 kids? The man is a lunatic, please call a spade a spade.

If they don’t wanna use [for whatever reason]it you can’t force them to buy it. And what else you want to do besides the bombardement of advertisements everywhere, do you want Government to use force against the poor people having kids?

For the last time, THIS IS WHAT I SAID:

Studies have shown people in rural areas, with no access to media, aid workers, facilites have absolutely no clue what birth control is. The Government is there for a reason, they need to go out there, send their workers to educate these people. Please stop putting words in my mouth, where did I say the Govt needs to go force them. Its actualy thick headed people who come up with absurd theories like vaccinations being infertility treatments by the Govt.

About the vaccines, even in western countries people have started to show their concerns about it.

Please show proof, and Maulana Fazl-ul-ullah of the Taliban terrorist tehrik Pakistan does not count.

I got pregnant while I was on the pill and suffered few side effects.

Sorry but personal anecdotes dont count here. I would much rather go by facts, you can believe whatever you want.

Here’s t
he list of side effects these pills can cause:

Minor side effects

Headaches
Nausea
Breast tenderness
slight weight gain
slight spotting of blood

Yes, no medication is risk free, even your normal aspirin. I am sure with time they will get better.

serious side effects

DVT
Heart attacks
strokes

(these are rare but still there are the chances)

Some of these are myths, and if not, RARE being the KEY WORD here.

While the pill can reduce the chance of ovary and womb cancer and can increase the chance of cervical and liver cancer.

Oh please, you are not a research analyst nor a doctor, and the only way you can ascertain is that through other people’s research and the factual and credible research does not agree with what you just wrote.

And you say it’s not evil at all that because you don’t have to have the pill. lolz

Pill is evli :rotlf: I am sorry but your whole argument stems from your religious beliefs, just say it instead of calling an immaterial object evil.

There are side effects to all the contraceptives except few but then they reduce the pleasure.

Sometimes things come at a price. Sometimes you have to have the will power to sacrifice a bit of ‘pleasure’.

If you wanna promote, promote natural and harmless ways.

Abstinance amongst married couples? Also, what about unmarried ones, what about STDs, and think beyong religion here, we’re discussing global population control here.

Its not about them being worried, it’s about promoting consumerism through the contraceptive industry.

No its not, plus nothings free, everything comes at a price, and the price you pay for birth control is far far less than the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy.

It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider abortion as a solution of birth control,

It does matter BECAUSE ABORTION IS NOT BIRTH CONTROL. Seriously, do you even know what abortion is?

the fact is it is part of birth controling methods and people are using it everywhere, just do an undercover research on private gynea clinics in any part of Pakistan and you’ll get amazing findings about the numbers of women who use this method.

I dont need to go undercover, I can use my brains to figure out the obvious. Abortion is there to get rid of ‘unwanted pregnancies’, as a last resort, as an emergency!

I’m not talking about the morals here, I’m talking about the side effects that come with birth control solutions.

1. Abortions, sterlizations and vesctomies are done by doctors and hospitals.

2. Pills, IUD, foams and injectables come under the drug industry.

3. And then rubber and latex companies which produce condoms and diaphragms.

So, whats wrong in having ‘industries’ and ‘centers’ doing things?

There can be better [better as in side effects free and without reducing the pleasure for both partners] contraceptives and solutions for birth control if the corporations try to put more effort in their research but they’re no putting more money in research for new methods…instead they are searching for hormonal methods which cannot be easily discontinued by women such as monthly injections and time release drugs.

Sorry but you dont live in a free world, you pay for what you get. Plus the theres always subsidies and aid available.

On the other hand, contraception or birth control are not modern age concepts, people have been using them in ancient times even Sahaba(ra) used it in Prophet(SAW)'s time and Prophet(SAW) said to his companions that they can use it if they want to but nothing can prevent the soul coming in this world without Allah’s will.

Did I say it was a modern thing? If people in the past were using it, it just shows they are smart.

I’m not against contraception but by forcing people to use birth control is like forcing them to change their belief.

No one is forcing anyone. Basically, you are against educating people about b control due to your own religious views.

Seriously, if you make points like abortion is birth control so birth control is bad, then I really have nothing intelligent to discuss here.