Hum do humarey do

With the population skyrocketing in our countries, it is very important to spread the message of family planning… but that contradicts our religious beliefs and culture in many ways.

If you were in charge, what steps would you take to control population?

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:hmmm: filhaal stomach empty hai ..khaa k aata hoon to ..phir sochien ge ..

tough question .. cos religious beliefs in involved ..

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Niksik, I heard a woman just gave birth to 8 kids in California (?) yesterday, on NPR/BBC radio

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I heard that too. But that’s here, let’s talk about back home :faizy:

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there was a guy in pak who wana have 100 kids :eek: saw it on utube.

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All from one wife?

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no no i dont think thats possible :hehe:
let me find a link :hmmm:

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here you go

now this is ridiculous. Don’t have enough money to take care of the kids. Its like keep giving birth n not care where they go and what their future would be like. Waste of 100 lives by single man!

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Jahil thought process. What would be the accomplishment?

He should just name them numbers 1 through 100.

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The principle of preventing conception was accepted in those sayings of the Prophet (pbuh) which allowed some of his followers to practice 'azl or coitus interruptus. These *ahadith *embodied the earliest legal reasoning of Muslims on contraception and were essential instruments of argument in later Islamic thought on contraception. There is a sufficient number of ahadith on contraception. The most commonly quoted ones are the following. [5]](http://muslim-canada.org/family.htm#5)

  1. According to Jabir, “We used to practise 'azl in the Prophet’s (pbuh) lifetime while the Qur’an was being revealed.” There is another version of the same hadith, “We used to practise coitus interruptus during the Prophet’s (pbuh) lifetime. News of this reached him and he did not forbid us.”
  2. According to Jabir, “A man came to the Prophet (pbuh) and said, ‘I have a slave girl, and we need her as a servant and around the palmgroves. I have sex with her, but I am afraid of her becoming pregnant.’ The Prophet (pbuh) said, ‘Practice 'azl with her if you so wish, for she will receive what has been predestined for her.’”
  3. According to Abu Sa’id, “We rode out with the Prophet (pbuh) to raid Banu al-Mustaliq and captured some female prisoners . . . we desired women and abstinence became hard. [But] we wanted to practise 'azl; and asked the Prophet (pbuh) about it. He said, ‘You do not have to hesitate, for God has predestined what is to be created until the judgement day.’”
  4. According to Abu Sa’id, “The Jews say that coitus interruptus is minor infanticide, and the Prophet (pbuh) answered, ‘The Jews lie, for if God wanted to create something, no one can avert it (or divert Him).’”
  5. According to 'Umar Ibn Khattab, “The Prophet (pbuh) forbade the practice of 'azl with a free woman except with her permission.”
  6. According to Anas, “A man asked the Prophet (pbuh) about 'azl and the Prophet (pbuh) said, ‘Even if you spill a seed from which a child was meant to be born on a rock, God will bring forth from that rock a child.’”
  7. According to Judhamah bint Wahb, "I was there when the Prophet (pbuh) was with a group saying, “I was about to prohibit the ghila (intercourse with a woman in lactation) but I observed the Byzantines and the Persians, and saw them do it, and their children were not harmed.’ They asked him about coitus interruptus, and the Prophet (pbuh) replied, ‘It is a hidden infanticide . . .’”
    These ahadith reflect two points: first that the Prophet (pbuh) knew about the practice and did not prohibit it (no. 1), and second, that the Prophet (pbuh) himself permitted the practice (no. 2 & 3).
    The hadith from Judhamah (no.7) was an approximation to the homicide traditions of the Jewish and Christian traditions. This hadith provided support for Ibn Hazm’s minority view that 'azl was prohibited by the Prophet (pbuh). But medieval jurists used the hadith about the Jews (no. 4) to refute the argument for prohibition. They claimed that how the Prophet (pbuh) could have maintained that the Jews lied by calling 'azl akin to infanticide and then have maintained the same opinion himself. [6]](http://muslim-canada.org/family.htm#6)
    Source

This is a big misconception that family planning isnt allowed in Islam. From what I have learnt, there is nothing wrong with family planning in Islam, be to space out your kids or to limit how many kids you have. The only thing is, your reasoning for it shouldnt be fear of poverty. Because your rizq isnt something you determine, rizq comes from Allah. Having 10 kids doesnt mean you will be poor and having one kid doesnt mean you will be rich. But other that that, you ARE allowed to do family planning for whatever reason (ex, wait till you are done school or space out kids or limit kids so you can raise them in the best way and give time and attention to them properly... etc)

:omg:

i cannot believe his wife and kids support him in this!!!

OK, then let's talk about how we can educate our people.

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hum do...
hamaray do-so

kerlo jo kerna hai...

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^ Good thing you dont live in China.

This was really sad. No other reason to bear children except to make a world record?

that’s so pathetic…the way the kids are snatching that piece of roti,they look miserable…
God works in ways only he can understand…people spend their entire lives longing for a child,and here he already has 40+,can’t feed them or educate them and still can have more…:frowning:

I don't agree that population is skyrocketing, atleast not in india. There is a significant decrease in population compare to last 10 years. Also, with increase in homosexuality and aborting female fetuses there's one male for 1000 females in India.

So the population gonna decrease even more quickly and heavily in next ten years.

In Pakistan, in last 10 years more people are dying through terrorism and natural disasters but still population is increasing with a balanced male and female ratio. And that's after all the advertisements on tv, newspapers and wall chalking.

In the West, quite a lot of money is being spend on abortions in under 15's and more money is being spend on treatment of infertile women of over 40's.....

Instead of spreading family planning message (that has been already being spread day and night through media and wall chalking) we should be asking the contraceptive industry to make side effects free contraceptives for women.

The kids look happy and healthy to me.....they can do gymnastics, can swim and by living near crops and fields and working in them and they know more about nature than any school going children of their age.

Allah palta hai Lois Lane. Wo shaksh naheen palta. Allah deta hai Aulad wo to sirf shauq aur khuwahish kar sakta hai poora to sirf Allah karta hai.

Ussi tarha jis tarha bayaulaad aulaad honay ki sirf khuwahish aur koshish kartay hain laikin Allah chahta hai to deta hai aur jub naheen chahta to naheen deta.

Allah hi sub ko palnay wala hai.

Niki didi. Main to angraizon ka yay rule mulk say nikaal phainkoon aur kahoon kay musalmanon fauj e ghafeer paida karo.

Niki didi hum do hamaray do kay usool par chal kar aik doctor nain meri phuphi ki aulad bundish kar di unkay do larkay hain. Un ko larki ka bohat hi shauq tha jo poora na ho saka.

Budtameez doctor nain khud hi kia baghair poochay. Allah kay yahan hisaab to dena ho ga us ko.

It’s very un Islamic to stop having child or children. Unless you have any critical or medical problem.