How will you survive?

When a true leader is born, Pakistan becomes a true Islamic emirate or joins others to form an emirate AND then bans music… how will you survive?!

:rotfl: how many threads will we have then I wonder…

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What about naatain and qawalian , are they soul food ? will they be banned too ?

Music is music as in anything to do with instruments excluding duff.. so yeah music will include qawaaliaan. :slight_smile: as far as my little knowledge goes.

and the dargas where these qawlians take place will also be closed off! :k:

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I think the role of the state should be facilitating the practice of religion, not imposing it. How much a person takes his religion seriously should be between him and the god.

Read about last Caliphate: Ottoman Empire

I am all oki with it, but if you are looking for talibanic-style gay-mullahs sharriah.. then it’s not coming.. remember Swat?

now go back to cave … see ya ..

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J J U N = Jarha Jitay Udhay Naal :wink:

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that means i won't be able to learn and play violin.....so what? That's not the end of the world.

btw, i don't think true islamic government would ban classical music.

Islam takes that stance as well. That is why you will not see any penalty prescribed by Quran or sunnah for not praying namaz , for not performing hajj if you can afford to go for it or for not reading Quran , or for not doing tasbeeh of Allah, there is no penalty for paying zakaat if you are ahle nisaab.. That is true spirit of free will.
magar Jahiliat ka koi ilaaj nahi . So called Islamic scholars or proponents of shariah start from there though.
Islam has penalty for crimes against humanity and punishment for many , many things , but there is no punishment for not following these basic pillars on which the foundation of religion depends. There are some specific ahadees against music but there is no penalty for those who indulge in music.
Personally I have my doubts against authenticity of those ahadees though first of all if music is such a bad thing why there is no specific prohibition in Quran and there is no penalty prescribed in ahadees for those who enjoy or play music.

I agree with most of your post but this part i dont. There is a cure to ignorance and it is education. Educate the masses, make basic school education free, build new universities, invest in research and development.

It will take some time and if some one says there is some choo manter quick fix, they are lying.

Because it was us who invented opera and European Classic Music + dance too… but too bad people of cave don’t have any idea…

:lifey:

errr…yeah. I’m not sure about opera and dance but most musical instruments like violin, guitar etc were invented by muslim scholars, yes, scholars, intellectuals and philosophers. :slight_smile:

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^ read history of Moorish Spain,.. it was us who started Opera ... lalalla. .lalala.. and.. step dancing.. too ..;)

No, they weren't.

last time you said the same thing about chess.. :hehe: :stuck_out_tongue:

greeks rule the business of inventions. we “muslims” modify it and present it as our “gift” to the ungrateful world.

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I have one word for such situation .. CAPPELLA

Its a very famous form of singing style in western music which does not require any musical instrument. In fact its developed by Old school Christians to sing religious/church music cause they thought of musical instruments as non religious thing.

I am surprised that this style of singing did not catch up in Islamic culture.

Sorry for those who cannot watch this video but here is bunch of people doing Simpson theme music

another example, tell me if you really miss any musical instrument in this number

So you’re saying that al-kindi wasn’t a philosopher and scholar?

Yeah, so?

Do you wanna ban chess to?

And it’s not always true, like modern violin is a modified form of the first violin that a muslim invented.

:smack:

I said they weren’t the ones who invented the instruments you just mentioned. Not even close. LOL

Then who did?

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^Google it.

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^Why don't you google it and post the names here?