How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

[roadrunner]

Re: How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

@TheRealDeal

blah,blah, how would you know what’s the norm in Pakistan?

I have already done more for my country than you ever will.If speaking against govt corruption and misdeed’s makes you jump up and down, I don’t care

Enjoy living in your dream world little boy:rotfl:

Oh really, semi literate Einstein. I’m sure during your time at Faisalabad High School for Salafist extremist Girls/Loser Opposition Partys’ obese daughters you were passing with flying colours in knitting and making a prick of yourself.

YOU cannot tell what is the norm in Pakistan by the socializing with humanoid baboons of your own social class. You use POLLS. All the polls, and electoral results show Musharraf is way ahead of anyone else - and why not, it’s under him that the economy has been transformed. Every other government has proved it’s backwardness except for Musharrafs. Here are SOME examples of poll research carried out. I challenge you to find one official poll that says Musharraf is NOT the most popular leader in Pakistan.

Gen. Musharraf’s determination not to hang his Army uniform may further be strengthened by a survey in Pakistan that 86 per cent of the people support him as the country’s ruler with 60 per cent viewing him “very favourably”. The survey by the Washington-based PEW Research Institute showed that an overwhelming majority of Pakistanis were with Gen. Musharraf.
http://news.indiamart.com/news-analysis/pakistan-musharraf-s-7520.html

That was 2004

In 2002, the General Elections were held which showed Musharraf to have the most electorate support amongst any other politicial party. He allowed international observers for the first time in Pakistani elections, and the Commonwealth Observers said this about the elections :

“We believe that on election day this was a credible election: the will of the people was expressed and the results reflected their wishes.”

In 2006 another survey was held, showed the same result (posted here in fact if I recall).

Finally Mr Extremist, I personally have done a lot more for Pakistan than your illiterate, lazy glutinous faecally encrusted rectum has done in it’s whole time wedged in the armchair you got stuck in when you were 6. The billions in remittances that come from Pakistanis abroad is what contributes to stimulating Pakistan’s economy, more so than the extent which you obviously can do judging by 1) your writing skills 2) your logic or lack of it and 3) the time spent patrolling this forum.

[anjjan]

Re: How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

@Fraudz

I am among the first people to say that there are madrissas that were created to provide war fodder for the afghan-soviet war by the alliance between Saudis americans and Pakistanis, those institutes are an issue, and institutes like those should be closed down, no doubt about it…

so examples of some individuals can be used when they are supposedly eduated at a madrisssa and then they commit some crime? but some examples related to some individuals can not be used when it comes to show that madrissas at large are really not an issue.

as I said before if masrissas were a problem, there would be millions of suicide bombers including myself, but is that the case? Not at all

So, I should take it for granted that kids who have spent some of their childhood years at a Madrisa are totally indifferent to un-beleivers, kafirs etc and may be they have love for those un-beleivers as it is very relevant in your individual case???

And as per your understanding there was no voilence against un-beleivers prior to Soviet-Afghan conflict???

Waiting for your reply!

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

@anjjan

So, I should take it for granted that kids who have spent some of their childhood years at a Madrisa are totally indifferent to un-beleivers, kafirs etc and may be they have love for those un-beleivers as it is very relevant in your individual case???

So…you should take it for granted that your argument has no merit, askling the qestion .. rather making a statement teh guise of a question is not going to make your hypothesis real. lets not play word games

overwhelming majority of madrissas are not trainign ground for terrorists or militants. and its not relevant in my “individual” case. That is true phenomenon.

so since we are having a little problem in understanding here, let me make it simple

1. overwhelming majority of ppl who went to madrissa are not militants.
2. there are militants who went to madrissas, and they were either the small number of madrissas that churn out brainwashed automatons
3. madrissas in point 1 and point 2 are not the same ones
4. those in point 1 are an issue, and need to be shut down, those in point 1 should not suffer because of that.

@anjjan

And as per your understanding there was no voilence against un-beleivers prior to Soviet-Afghan conflict???

As per my understanding there has been violence by followers of every faith against others in every region in every part of history. the butchering of my mum’s family after partition is an example that I personally know of. I am not sure which madrissa those hindu mobs went to.

as far as pakistan goes yes there was violence, but not to the level of what it became during that era due to the whole approach of propping up these institues funded by KSA and weapons provided by USA for these ppl to go fight in Afghanistan.

the increase in violence against other muslims by these extremists was significantly more than what it was against non muslims.

@anjjan

Waiting for your reply!

well there you go.

[anjjan]

Re: How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

Fraudz Can you come out of your personal experiences on all grounds???
And can you give some concrete answers without excuses???

And if you have opened the topic of partition....without exposing any personal experience, I would like to ask you, which community started voilence in most of the cases??? Pick up a right hand analysis of history!

Re Madrisa attendance at the child age....I have often seen children sitting at flours at a Madrisa...reading Quran while moving their head to and fro and the Maulvi roaming around to and fro carrying a stick.

These pictures are totally different from those of your explanations.

Yes, RSS Hindus, especially who have joined RSS since childhood die hard for the so-called superiority of Hindu religion.

/\/\ Without any excuses I can make this declaration.

[roadrunner]

Re: How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

The Madrassas in Pakistan have been reformed from what i've heard. They now teach curricular subjects as well. They aren't very popular with Pakistanis anyway, just with the less well off who can't afford school.

[sweefs]

Re: How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

ehsan uncle is right.....the solution to this is education...if those ppl werr rightly educated then maybe they would have enough sense as to how wrong suicide is?

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

@anjjan

Fraudz Can you come out of your personal experiences on all grounds???
And can you give some concrete answers without excuses???

Nqajjan, can you come out of your ore conceived bias on any ground whatsoever??? you show up here with an idiotic ill formed view, and are not interetsed in learning but just stuck in your own bias, and not open to reason.

@anjjan

And if you have opened the topic of partition…without exposing any personal experience, I would like to ask you, which community started voilence in most of the cases??? Pick up a right hand analysis of history!

sorry nt interetsed in the version of history taught to you, read an incependent view and you will see that it was dont on both sides. the point that religion based hatred has been around.

Your argument was that violence was around prior to afghan war. This was an attempt to show that since there was religious violence prior to afghan war that means that madrais were churning out militants prior to afghan war. Sure, I agree with that. the increase in religious violence during and after the afghan war clearly goes to indicate that these factories set up by the belssings of Reagan-Zia- and teh saudi monarchy were the issue.

@anjjan

Re Madrisa attendance at the child age…I have often seen children sitting at flours at a Madrisa…reading Quran while moving their head to and fro and the Maulvi roaming around to and fro carrying a stick.

most madrissas have people sitting on the floor. and while some madrissas may have maulvis hitting kids with a stick it is not the case in majority of madrissas. But then hey my views, observations and perspectives is not something you want.
as far as carrying a stick goes, sticks are carried in public and prvate schools as well. Not that you are interested in my experience or my observation..certanly because it goes counter to your illformed views, but that to and fro motion, majority of kids do that. and frankly the same is seen in other faiths as well. among my family and my friends, pretty much everyone rocked as they read the quran as kids. Last I checked none of them had gone to blow up something.

@anjjan

These pictures are totally different from those of your explanations.

so where in your infinite wisdom do you make the calculation of…

kids on floor (not flour) + moving heads to and fro + maulvi with stick = suicide bomber

@anjjan

Yes, RSS Hindus, especially who have joined RSS since childhood die hard for the so-called superiority of Hindu religion.

//\ Without any excuses I can make this declaration.

yeah because RSS is a racist, extremist, hindu fundemanetalist party. On the other hand that is not what madrissas are. Madrissas run by muslim version of groups like RSS are by all means.

This is the point that I have been making all along. seperate militant madrissas from the regular ones. regulate the latter group, shut down the former.

But to claim that ALL madrissas or even a majority are some suicide bombr factories is an uneducated view or a biased view, and no matter how many times you say it, that does not make it the truth. Sorry

[Monk]

Re: How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

you know where suicide bomber get together and plan, we should send a suicide bomber there to kill them all

[sweefs]

Re: How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

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[Dhoti_Main_Dhamaka]

Re: How to stop suicide bombing in Pak?

@knockout_artist

you know where suicide bomber get together and plan, we should send a suicide bomber there to kill them all

:k: