i think that government + private sector needs to honestly focus mainly on core bugs that r contaminating our society like ...................eradiaction of poverty so that the poor class can make both ends meet, provide basic education to women / mothers , basic health care and other necessities ........................ absence of which result in prevalance of anger & jahalat among mainly young boys/ men of society , who could easily become victim of " mullah sahiban's pathetic conspiracy" that goes on in rural areas , these boys get exploited at hands of wicked mullahs and results in a freshly growing army of terroists , criminals , suicide bombers etc.
One cannot stop a suicide bomber. It is one of those things where the best result is when the bomber only blows him.
Question should be who are these people and what are they doing in Pakistan? Pakistan is not rich country; we do not have philanthropists like Saudis who can just fund millions into pockets of average person and use him for their own adventures.
How they get the linguistics, intelligence and weapons is a big question. There is planning in place when you see these attacks go on in Pakistan. It is beyond the thinking of people who own decade old Toyota pickups with ak47.
u've got the picture of my opposition of the govt totally wrong..hence it seems apalling to u!
The present govt has done numerous things that have helped pakistan alot and would help in the future..
This does not mean, however, that one has to support all the strategies of a govt to be termed as supporting the govt..
im surprised how and what you made of my reply here..
even if i wasnt opposing one of the strategies of the govt.; my answer would have been the same..
i.e. the better of the two parties involved (govt and anti govt/bombers) would have to take the initiative first..hence the govt should stop first
i really dont see how u interpreted that as me wanting a crime ridden pakistan..
this strategy of the govt has led to more attacks i.e. other than sectarian; i.e. it hasnt stopped anything but increased crime, therefore, i believe the policy should be changed
ofcourse the govt should have control, but it has to choose and change strategies..to some they mite look right..to some they mite look wrong
u've mixed the other thread, u really didnt get the point i was trying make there, my communication skills need a lot of polishing lols
Question should be who are these people and what are they doing in Pakistan? Pakistan is not rich country; we do not have philanthropists like Saudis who can just fund millions into pockets of average person and use him for their own adventures.
How they get the linguistics, intelligence and weapons is a big question. There is planning in place when you see these attacks go on in Pakistan. It is beyond the thinking of people who own decade old Toyota pickups with ak47.
Correct Pakistan is poor country and that is the core reason many are available to perform this kind of activities for the sake of money on the other hand Molvies are brain washing young generation like I said earlier Heaven is free along with beautiful hoor (damn it)
For jobless young guy this is the best deal he could ever get in his life (Janat & Hoor) along with honor of Shadat.
Correct Pakistan is poor country and that is the core reason many are available to perform this kind of activities for the sake of money on the other hand Molvies are brain washing young generation like I said earlier Heaven is free along with beautiful hoor (damn it)
For jobless young guy this is the best deal he could ever get in his life (Janat & Hoor) along with honor of Shadat.
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Let's go through the list again.
Pakistan is not a rich country, these bombers, organization and/or whoever they are getting the money from outside.
If someone is going to blow up himself, what would be the reason, no jobs or a Maulvi told him too. Nah...no different than a crack head in America who watches 50 channels everyday. It will make them depress not able to blow themselves in middle of market or airport.
The best madrassas and Molvis have done is make hatemongers in Pakistan who may be ignorant with the ground realities, but not willing to go this far.
Like I said, all these attacks, if you look them carefully have a plan in place; how to reach the area, break security codes, transfer the ammo and timing. Pakistan anticipated attacks during Moharram and it happened, despite all the security and planning.
If someone is going to blow up himself, what would be the reason, no jobs or a Maulvi told him too. Nah...no different than a crack head in America who watches 50 channels everyday. It will make them depress not able to blow themselves in middle of market or airport.
Aside from financials the main reason behind these activities is ‘Religion’
None of the solutions listed seem good. Every solution listed talks about SOME type of cosmetic measures… which will NOT work. You mold sh!t with gold, but it will stay what it is from inside. You can mob up and hide the dirt under the carpet but it will always seap out = basically diaper effect… no matter how effective it is in keeping the waste in, you still need to change it every now and then.
-Stop funding
Won’t work. There is no way to regulate or stop money going from one person to the other. -Education
Which education? You give them education on religion, people will accuse them of being extremists… problem. You give them education on other stuff, they will become the other extreme, secular modernist, ruining the tradition and values of east. Education will only sharpen them, educated person won’t blow himself up but find other means to harm others.
What is wrong with Hindu suicide bombers? Why do they do it? Why did the japanese perform suicide operations against the allies? I guess, these group of people did it to pass time.
Only solution that *might *work in my opinion is:
Good parenting.
If mind is not molded from the very early stages, it has tendencies to become many things and one of those is suicide missions and extremism. But, if education is emphasised along with that, it might just make a huge difference.
Another thing to note: Why are these suicide missions happening now? What is their history? Who started them? Why? Did Muslims ever performed such barbaric acts of despair before their countries were colonized? Did Sahaba and early muslims took up these tactics? Did people who were fighting the terrorist crusaders performed such evil acts? No.
True! I am glad that you have stated the facts that some others seem to have missed.
Despite the recent wave of attacks, this government's abiding success has been the huge reduction in sectarian terrorist attacks, especially in the last 5 years. Throughout the 90's all the way to the early part of this decade we were seeing, hundreds of people being killed in Sunni-Shia attacks, practically every month. There seemed no end of that bloodshed, and then 9/11 came along and we were faced with the additional Taliban/Al Qaida threat. It was a really depressing situation to see almost daily news of scores of Shias and Sunni's being slaughtered in Pakistan.
Now despite the massive security challenges arising out of 9/11, the government's anti-terror policies (incl. the smashing of a lot of the militants in Waziristan) has seen an end to the cycle of Sunni-Shia killings. It must also not be forgotten that the majority of the recent attacks have been thwarted before causing any large scale loss of life. We still have a serious terrorist threat, but nothing as large and bloody as when all the sectarian bloodshed was going on.
SB & YK ZAID! One should not forget the retailatory attacks by extremist shias on sunni mosques during 1995-1996 - Masjid Akbar and others! At the same time the burning of shia mosques and houses in Liaquatabad, Karahi in 1984 as a result of Zia's extremist policies!
Yup, and as I said the routine Sunni / Shia slaughter that blighted Pakistan for so many years is largely a thing of the past. The horrors we now see in Iraq remind me of what was going on in Pakistan in the 80's and 90's, and there seemed to be no end to it. It is to the credit of Pakistan that we have in the last 5-6 years seen an end to that ceaseless killing, which means that the government's anti-terror policies have largely succeeded. The recent attacks demonstrate we still face a terrorist danger, and I am sure we will overcome it just like we did the Sunni-Shia bloodshed. Inshallah.
The reason our govt seems to be unable to eliminate these groups may have to do with linkages that our own agencies have in these so called jihadi tanzeemat. For some people it is hard to completely cut off ties even if it endangers society. :( I remember when Maulana Azam Tariq was suddenly released from prison when he agreed to support the lota league and was killed when he outlived his usefulness. Both the sectarian and other extremists are known to everyone. If traitors like Akbar Bugti can be eliminated, why not cut off the heads of other snakes? No one will shed a tear.
Its easy to take out traitors like Bugti etc, as they dont hide their identities and are well documented as to what they do and say. These guys appear out of the nowhere, thats why they resort to suicide bombing as they cant do anything else.
