How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

[Shamraz_Khan]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@hanibal

if army comes now, they'll do the same, produce more corrupt politicians... army's role is not to rule the country.. period... we all have seen what army rule has done... and i do not think any sane person ( and i do not consider JI and MQM's leadership sane ) would want army to takeover Pakistan for the fourth time... as it is going to produce same bad result...

Saleem bhai wants army to rule the country b/c thats the only way he get his share if pie (apparently).

[Sa1eem]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@Anwer_Pasha

Aglay janam main , Is janam main to SCL us ko niknay day gi naheen

phir aglay janam may ussay mauqa mila aur uss nay bhie wohi kiya jo Zardari aur Nawaz kartay hain, tou aglay janaam may ussay bhie traitor Altaf kaha jayea gaa. :)

[Sa1eem]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@Shamraz_Khan

Saleem bhai wants army to rule the country b/c thats the only way he get his share if pie (apparently).

my share? ... well, my share would be to see country prosper. :)

[hanibal]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@Shamraz_Khan

Saleem bhai wants army to rule the country b/c thats the only way he get his share if pie (apparently).

you mean plot?

[Shamraz_Khan]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@Sa1eem

my share? ... well, my share would be to see country prosper. :)

You do know all major problems that country face could be traced back to army rules, don't you? The Islamization, religious intolerance, the jihadi monster & ethno-provincialism all are gift from army.

[Shamraz_Khan]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@hanibal

you mean plot?

or 2..who is counting?

[Sa1eem]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

^^^ It is really disappointing to see that some here only think about shares in pie or getting plot. There is no concept of thinking and caring about country and its future. :(

But then, that is what happens when people in power loot, plunder and rewards their important voters and supporters with plots and permits ... all at the expense of country.

[Shamraz_Khan]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@Sa1eem

^^^ It is really disappointing to see that some here only think about shares in pie or getting plot. There is no concept of thinking and caring about country and its future.

But then, that is what happens when people in power loot, plunder and rewards their important voters and supporters with plots and permits … all at the expense of country.

Yes, army men are saint as you would like us to believe. No corruption there…or is there?

Musharraf puts his Central London apartment on sale - thenews.com.pk

LONDON: Former president General (retd) Pervez Musharraf has decided to sell his flat in Central London, Geo News reported.

Sources said Musharraf put his luxury 4-bedroom apartment, near Hyde Park Crescent Central London, on sale for £3 million. He had purchased this flat for £1.3 million in 2009.

Recently the former president had got the apartment renovated at a cost of £250,000.

[Sa1eem]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@Shamraz_Khan

You do know all major problems that country face could be traced back to army rules, don't you? The Islamization, religious intolerance, the jihadi monster & ethno-provincialism all are gift from army.

I think, Pakistan biggest problem started with nationalization of industry and services ... that brought in corruption, nepotism, mismanagement, incompetency, and bribes in big way ... plus at the same time rewarding on political ground also started. Today we are seeing the evils that got created then.

[kakaballi]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@Sa1eem

^^^ It is really disappointing to see that some here only think about shares in pie or getting plot. There is no concept of thinking and caring about country and its future. :(

But then, that is what happens when people in power loot, plunder and rewards their important voters and supporters with plots and permits ... all at the expense of country.

Yes, It is really disappointing to see military only thinking about its share of pie or getting plots.

[muqawwee123]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@Sa1eem

Army may koyi agar ghaddar ho jayea tou phir dusray army walay ussay goli maar daytay hain. Kuttay ghaddar ho jayeen tou dusray kuttay un kay saath mil ker ghaddari kartay hain ... aur ghaddar saathi kay liya bhooktay bhie hain.

Yahya Khan ko to kisi ne goli nahin maari, jab wo uss waqt tarana ke tarane sun raha tha, jab Paksiatn ka tarana chalane wala Radio Dhaka, Radio Bangladesh banene ja raha tha.

Zia ul Haq ko to kisi ne 11 saal goli kiya chamaat bhi nahin maari uske kaale kartooton per.

Musharraf ko bhi koi goli maar na saka, bawajood uske khufia deals with USA.

oh I get you, you are not talking about Pakistani army. righto?

[Sa1eem]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@Shamraz_Khan

Yes, army men are saint as you would like us to believe. No corruption there…or is there?

Musharraf puts his Central London apartment on sale - thenews.com.pk

LONDON: Former president General (retd) Pervez Musharraf has decided to sell his flat in Central London, Geo News reported.

Sources said Musharraf put his luxury 4-bedroom apartment, near Hyde Park Crescent Central London, on sale for £3 million. He had purchased this flat for £1.3 million in 2009.

Recently the former president had got the apartment renovated at a cost of £250,000.

First of all, it is BS that he bought his flat for £1.3 million.

Secondly, there is no doubt that he earned a lot of money lecturing and from his book, much more than several million pounds, so he could afford such modest property from his known legal earnings.

Thirdly, even as army top brass, his legal salary and army give outs was enough to buy a flat that I believe he bought for few hundred thousand pounds.

Fourth … he ruled Pakistan for 8 years as most powerful ruler. If he was corrupt his properties abroad would have been worth not in millions but in billions of dollars, just like properties of traitor Nawaz, traitor Bhuttos, and traitor Zardari.

[kakaballi]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

^ If nawaz, benazir and other politicians are traitors then Mush is Mega traitor for issuing NRO.

[muqawwee123]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@kakaballi

^ If nawaz, benazir and other politicians are traitors then Mush is Mega traitor for issuing NRO.

wrong. Mush was Mush-kul kusha of these traitors

[Sa1eem]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

Musharraf flat in London: #18](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/456960-musharraf-loots-pakistan-dry-with-cronies.html#post7779174)

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/456960-musharraf-loots-pakistan-dry-with-cronies.html#post7779174

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Facts also speaks itself, as the flat Musharraf bought in London is worth no more than few hundred thousand pounds, surely less than half a million pounds (£500,000), that is very modestly priced accommodation in London in comparison to properties Pakistani corrupt politicians buy in London. Musharraf ruled Pakistan for around 9 years, much more than Nawaz or Zardari. Musharraf also worked throughout his life unlike haram-khors Nawaz and Zardari, two famous thugs whose only profession and source of income throughout their life was looting and plundering Pakistan. Mushraff also earned a lot from his book ‘In line with fire’ that was once best seller for brief period, and even today, Mushraff earns millions every month from lectures, still he is living in modest London accommodation. If Musharraf was corrupt then certainly he would have bought similar flat what NS and Zardari buy in numbers (each of them have property in London worth billions of pounds, or more than 2000 times the value of Mushraff’s flat).

For those who want to check price, here are list of flats in Cambridge court, Edgware road W2, where 2 flats, both 2 beds are going for £465,000 each.

Cambridge court w2 - Trovit

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The building ‘Cambridge court’ on Edgware Road W2, where Musharraf has a modest 2 bed flat.******

[kakaballi]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

chorain Sa1eem bhai... yeh batain, chai chalay gi ya coffee?

[Sa1eem]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@kakaballi

chorain Sa1eem bhai... yeh batain, chai chalay gi ya coffee?

You are right ... let see, I am hoping to see R Shareef replaces N Shareef. :)

Phir chai aur Kofi dona chalay gee, Insha-Allah. :)

[Sa1eem]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@muqawwee123

Yahya Khan ko to kisi ne goli nahin maari, jab wo uss waqt tarana ke tarane sun raha tha, jab Paksiatn ka tarana chalane wala Radio Dhaka, Radio Bangladesh banene ja raha tha.

Zia ul Haq ko to kisi ne 11 saal goli kiya chamaat bhi nahin maari uske kaale kartooton per.

Musharraf ko bhi koi goli maar na saka, bawajood uske khufia deals with USA.

oh I get you, you are not talking about Pakistani army. righto?

I do not think anyone of them tried to loot, plundered and destroy the country. None of them did nepotism or haram khori.

Pakistan getting defeated by India in 1971 does not mean any treachery. Pakistan army is and was a quarter of Indian army, and Russia was fully behind India, so defeat was not so unexpected. Anyhow, Yahya was deposed by army, not any traitor politician.

It is also fact that if Bhutto in UN had gone with resolution (that was coming from Russia backing) instead of tearing it, it was possible that Pakistan would have got saved with Mujeed ruling the country, but Bhutto traitor did not wanted that.

As for Zia, I do not think he intentionally harmed Pakistan. He was deobandi with wahabi influence, and he promoted what he believed in, and that caused lot of harm because unknowingly he promoted terrorism.

As for Musharraf, only thing I do not agree with him is he letting Nawaz go instead of hanging him ... issuing of NRO and dealing with BB (PPP as party) ... dealing softy with Iftikhar and judiciary ... and also going soft with Taliban. Else, many of his work is really appreciable (as far as I am concerned), that includes free media, economic boost, banning terrorist outfits, coming out of Afghan taliban support, and so on.

[kakaballi]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

@Sa1eem

You are right ... let see, I am hoping to see R Shareef replaces N Shareef. :)

Phir chai aur Kofi dona chalay gee, Insha-Allah. :)

Qaala muqawwee123 bhai, qaala Zardari... there is a billa, who likes to drink milk only. :D

[muqawwee123]

Re: How to preserve Dignity - For Raheel Sharif

yay... raping of nations' daughters by army in East Pakistan was done on Bhutto's request (a civilian). All army dictators were masoom :LB: and what they did to the nation was unintentional.

As far as Zia's policies are concerned based on his wahabi Islam, were all armed forces sleeping to see what harm is being done to the country or they were enjoying petro-dollars?

God forbid, if Musharraf had hanged NS, we would have another so called siyasi shaheed. Good that it didn't happen.