I can’t believe brother that you have got so near … to finding the answer … you are so near … I don’t want to tell you.
Look in your post you said …
After we get educated - when does that investment start to pay off … i.e. when do we put that into practice?
When do we actualise and personify a manifestation of that knowledge gained?
Then on the other hand you said … I would rather speak to a “kaariger” - why? because he is being productive …
You are so near to finding the answer …
Let me help …
What is the difference between the kaariger and the graduate? Other than one is educated and the other is not? The difference is that one is productive and the other finds it hard to be productive?
Why?
Is it possibly because formal “education” as we know it actually does not “open the mind?”
I can tell what is attractive about a guy in pakistan on road side, fixing punctured tyre/tube.
A-Its a small but complete model of different fields or physics.
1-taking tube out of tyre with a metal stick- mechanics(staitc)
2-rubbing tube with rough surface- strength of marital + mechanics
3-applyigng patch- well chamistery
4-putting air back in- I think fluid dynamics
So small but complete models right in front of your eyes.
B- His faith in the process before he starts it, he know he would follow through.
C-All the laws being there, who never violate them selves.
A graduate…
I guess they get so humbled in wrong way, during their education, that they never put any knowledge in practice. They mostly just talk about knowledge.
Spiritually (I am watching spirtual drama these days)
They don’t test the tamasha God put forth for us. They don’t add into it.
BTW when you say who made car(I mean cycle),
so cycle came into being with a quality only humans have, collective learning.
So If a person does not test any thing, does not share any thing, fundamentally he is
out of that cycle of collective learning.
I would have great respect for grad who go and add documents in openSource.
or at instructable.org… you know…
A karigar goes through an education program as well, somehow he is taught what to do, techniques, materials… Whatever.
This is the same as a college student in a particular field who learns about topics directly related as well as those that may be indirectly related or broaden ones viewpoint and knowledge base.
A karigar, essentially practices what he has been taught, same for a graduate. Both of them have a period to get up to speed and be able to do basic aspects of their role.
Now for both depending on how good their education and training was, how innovative and driven they are, and what opportunities their environment provides to them… They can innovate, do new things, create .. Do something that does not currently exist. A broad knowledge base gives people more raw material to work with.
It’s not just scientists in research labs. It’s people in every field who innovate, some are major items, some are minor.
Mediocre education/training, combined with the wrong environment/organization and a lack of drive or deficiency in drive and motivation will create automatons … Whether it’s a karigar regurgitating the things he has learnt day in day out, or a professional who is going through some monotonous routine.
Now I think I created a paradox when I asked the question, A kariger should have been compared to practising gard.
A garduate who did not put his ideas to work, would be like a kariger who started a business but have not done any job.
and who made the model of the car which was then manufactured , sold and finally needed a tyre change ?
koi haal nahee
prob solved …atleast in my mind