^First we have to kill all talibs
will lead to a political witch hunt. oooh i dislike this guy and sure he has a beard, talks alot about pakistan. must be a taliban.
will lead to a political witch hunt. oooh i dislike this guy and sure he has a beard, talks alot about pakistan. must be a taliban.
Ok, kill enough of them to send everyone a message that they cannot get away with murder and that they are not invincible as their brainwashed puppets like to repeat.
Re: How to Clear the Mess
^ once again innocent blood at risk here.i think the toughest job is to separate current rebels and their sympathisers. little matters though because drone attacks arent probably too concerned with innocent lives.
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The hell are you talking about?
No need. I am too busy at work to spend time watching TV.
US won every single battle in Vietnam. They lost the war because of the incompetence of South Vietnamese Army and the lack of support from US population. I know you won't believe this....because you will continue to leech onto your misguided views.
They can't seal the borders because they don't have enough troops. Since the terrorists eminate from Pakistan, it is Pakistan's responsibility to take them out. As for being India's friend...this is the textbook line of attack of any Paki who is challenged from their traditional views which have been embedded in them since childhood.
no comment to a stupid statement like that
Again no challenge. You havent done any research. As for 1948 thats when the constitution was rectified by the supreme court of pakistan.
you really dont know anything do you.....
as for wars....lets see....
US Revolutionary War - US won War of 1812 - US won Barbary War - US won US-Mexican War - US won US-Spanish War - US won US-Philippine War - US won World War I - US won World War II - US won Korean War - US won Vietnam War - US won every single battle but lost public support and could not reform the corrupt South Vietnamese government.
Cuba - Invaded by cuban exiles and not americans in bay of pigs
Somalia - US inflicted over 1,000 casualites on Somalis who butchered 24 Pakistani peacekeepers.
Need I continue.....
You need to do more research and stop spouting nonsese.......I am getting tired of correcting you each time.....
Come on, none of ur facts were right specially on Pakistan
Now if go in history, muslims used to control almost half of the known world, right from spain to samatara..
Now if anyone says that US was winner in Vietnam war, it clearly suggest what mindset he got.... you must check with the pyschologist...
I may not reply to you ever again, unless and untill you post some sense in ur posts, which i think u r not capable of.... yani, US won the vietnaam war.... and pakistan founded in 1948, Zia renamed pakistan as Islamic republic... you must stop reading the crap... and get some real research.. although i doubt your capabilities for doing so
I agree and just to add more, there are The Good, The Bad and The Ugly talibans. lol
The Good one are in Afghanistan fighting for their freedom against the western invasion by doing jihad. e.g. Mullah Omar and Haqqani
The Bad one are the ones, which have been brought from Afghanistan into Pakistan and are responsible for the current situations, like Mehsud and;
The Ugly one are the ones calling themselves Pakistanis and are in hand with the Bad taliban. e.g. Fazlullah
Mangal Bagh has got nothing to do with any of the above, he has his its own agenda to bring peace to those places but his commitment is not an Islamic one instead he do things his own way and doesn't fight against Pak Army or Forces or the soveriegnity of Pakistan.
Well i agree to above, Now i do respect Afghan-Freedom fighters, they are fighting against the superpowers of the world and this time, there is no other super power than Allah, who is providing them with any equipments.
but, are you sure about Mangal Bagh??? is he really not fighting against Pak-Army? then whom he is fighting with, I know, he formed this Lashkar-e-Islam to combat Mehsuds and other bad/ugly talibans in FATA area, but he ended up becoming one...
Excellent article by Imran!!!
You sound like spokesman of RAW.
totally agree wid you. there are some RAW agents on GS also
which we have to fight against!
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look what he is saying "we should develop our education system-education for all-jobs for all", " leave tribal areas alone and slowly bring it to the main stream", " give preference to local language", "even though tribals are religious Taliban did not enter tribal area until the war on terror", "create policies and systems according to ground realities", if only Pakistan could follow this, leaders like Imran Khan will only be a dream for Pakistan until he is not rejected like this.
^First we have to kill all talibs
This is the stupid, senseless mentality that has brought us to where we are.
I would agree only if militancy around the world had been suppressed through force. Srilanka has been trying to do that for 30 years and it is an island. It was the senseless military action in Kargill that distanced us from India. It was the stupid military action in Baluchistan which has given popular support to separatists there. Military action is no solution. You isolate militants. You try and take away popular support for them. You try and form a cohesive public movement against them. Indiscriminate military actions never bring peace. We saw that in Vietnam, Middle East, Iraq, Afghanistan, numerous countries in Africa, even Indian held Kashmir.
Re: How to Clear the Mess
Please try and bring Pakistani judicial system to replace tribal systems in remote villages in NWFP and Baluchistan. You cannot provide them with electricity, roads or gas and expect them to remain a lawless area? Some justice system (tribal, jirga, whatever) is better than none.
There are villages in NWFP and Baluchistan which are miles away from closest neighboring settlement. No infrastructure there. You do not have police stations or courts or schools. How can we, sitting in Karachi or Lahore, expect them to run the communities without some kind of a legal or educational system. Unless you provide them with an alternate, they would continue with sardari, jirga and madarassa system.
We are so distanced from the realities that we cannot realize that much more is wrong with us than what's wrong with the tribals. We talk about living in denial. Yes, we have been living in denial for 60 years. Never did provide the tribal areas of NWFP and Baluchistan with any facilities that we take for granted. Leaving any other cities in the provice that provides us with most of natural gas, Quetta city has three CNG stations. There are more than that within 5KM radius of my house. How many universities do we have in those provices outside Peshawar or Quetta? And then we expect the people there to be all loyal and faithful to the government of Pakistan, abide by its laws and be thankful for whatever pittance we give them. Shame on us.
I have lost all respect for Imran Khan after this stupid article
hahahahahah! lost your respect! you have not ever had respect for him then how do ya lost. ehh?
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Well, My fellow Pakistani and Western Pakistani brothers and sisters, everyone here seems to be acting like as an Armchair General or more than that, giving suggestions by suggestion, criticising and criticising, Imran Khan is this and that, Zardari is this and that, Jamiat Islami is this MQM is that, Talibans are this and that. The Pakistani Govt. needs to do this and that. Are there going to be an end to this childish and non-constructive conversations? A biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig NO, as I don't see it.
I am very much sure, NONE of us here in this very forum have ever been to Swat, Bajaur, FATA or Buner most recently or during the time of intense conflicts and NONE of us even ain't got a clue, what would be the condition and feelings of those people who live there and facing evreything and so forth, NONE of us even showing sympathies for those people and applause for their courage. NONE of us.
NONE of us have ever seen or met Taliban with our own bared eyes. We have blindly believed, whatever media has injected into our minds and without even know whether its a truth or a lie, without even thinking or realizing about the real situation, we suddenly start acting like smart, active and patriotic Pakistanis. All crap and BS.
The real question is, what we really need to ask ourselves; what we, as a youth really need to do right now for Pakistan? We simply can't compromise on this worldly attractions which has kept us astray from all these things, which in a sense is very easy to analyse sitting in front of the PC and browsing here and there, type in our BS stories and comments in different forums without even know or a clue about the reality.
On the grounds we are nothing, we all are a bunch of cowards, useless and selfish, we only think about ourselves and for ourselves and we aren't doing anything for Pakistan, for its soveriegnity, for its pride nothing at all. Think and ask yourself one simple question, What I am doing for Pakistan right now, right at this moment or what I am going to do for Pakistan, for my Pakistan?
I know most of Western Pakistani here wouldn't agree with me but Islam is the only and prime solution of a United Pakistan, get rid of the borders of NWFP, Punjab, Baluchistan and Sindh out of the country and call it only Pakistan, a single Pakistan, which could make us all united under the flag of Islam and to fight our common enemy, the enemy of Islam and Pakistan, be it anyone, be it Taliban.
yes man ur 100% right i also aggree with out but this is only for sane people. not for insane!
huh
propaganda campaigns
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