A spin-off from PD’s thread http://gupshup.org/gs/pakistan-and-world-affairs/665700-phir-na-kehna-bataya-nahin-tha.html this is a very serious question right now. How do Pakistan handle a person who is on the most powerful seat and is ready to bully everyone and then punish anyone who doesnt make him happy.
Just today, his envoy in UN said Nikki Haley said this, “For those who don’t have our back, we’re taking names; we will make points to respond to that accordingly.” Which is a direct threat to all countries.
Just remember, today he has banned people from 7 muslim countries, tomorrow Pakistan can be the 8th one. He has already invited Modi who ofcourse will again stress to declare Pakistan a terrorist state.
Cut him to size.
Permanently shut the nato supply line, and shutdown american embassy/consulates in pakistan.
Tell him to go pound sand. Put a ban on americans(non-pakistani origin) entering pakistan.
Trust me, USA will be begging the Pak Govt for relief if this is done. No need to be afraid, they can’t harm pakistan cuz that would mean ww3
Pakistan is in no way to exert such kind of pressure. But it can protest for such arrogant and prejudice behavior. Pakistan’s origin living in USA are good and law abiding citizens. Because of some individual stupid acts, Pakistan and Pakistanis in general should not suffer. America is a land of opportunity and all deserving, hard working Pakistanis should have equal access to such opportunities as others in the world.
You hit the nail right on the head - But the bigger issue is Pakistani ruling class… When they get big fat bribes aka aid than trust me money talks and amreeka gets a free hand.
Don’t do anything loud to attract attention for a few months. Have your politicians call their Saudi, UAE and Turkish counterparts and convince them to pressure Trump to end his racist policies or have his assets in their countries seized and liquidated to help refugees.
USA will kick his racist orange ass out once reality hits home in a few months. Meanwhile read tweets from @Trump_Regrets and laugh. Some trumpanzees just realized their hated Obamacare is the same thing as the Affordable Care Act they loved so much and got them health insurance. Wait till the trade wars hit the US economy.
Sidny pai, i hope you remember this lesson in history - when you brushed off Sanders for his religious background and got this orange anmol tofa in return for crooker hilz.
Queeer, I remember our conversation but if you go back and check I cleared that pointing out Sanders being jew was not the motive that we shouldnt vote for him being jew. I was explaining why he didnt meet any Israeli leader and spoke at the conference where each candidate vowed their commitments with Israel. I liked Sanders but I preferred Clinton over him. And I strongly think that given the conditions and consequences, Sanders would have lost too. Its a imaginary claim that Sanders would have won just like we knew that before Nov. 10, Clinton was winning by miles.
And no, I dont see this chimp going anywhere before 4-8 yrs. Extremely dark era my friend.
Dont think anything we do or not-do will have any impact, we should focus on ourselves, Trump may loose influence on EU and European Countries, we need to be friends with France, German, Russia, China and Saudi Arabia…UK seems to be ready to become poddle of US as it is looking for new allies after loosing EU…
Trump’s policies may create a perception of Christain or Non-Muslim centeric…this may end Capitalism vs Non-Capitalism fight/debate…
Being the a successful businessman is not a guarantee to become a successful politician…Trump certainly going to bring lots of shame and embaressment to US…
Moreover, it is not only about Trump, earlier, Obama, Bush and Clinton have given favors to India as it is one of the biggest consumer market…alot bigger than Pakistan…
So in order to maintain balance, India needs to be cut to size, Americans are friends or foes to nobody but with their interests…
If India is Balkanized ( there are already 14 or more freedom movements in India) then only this threat can be neutralized…
Do you realize that Pakistan and its people are not like Iraq or Libya?
22 crore will volunteer to fight if USA dares to attack Pakistan, it ain’t happening. Allah pe yaqeen nai ha tumhei? Are you a muslim?
So you are saying Ppl in Afghanistan or Iraq or Libya or yemen were not muslims or didnt have ALLAH pe yaqeen? May be Pakistan should scrap their defense budget now and let everything rely on ALLAH pe yaqeen only
They can get a toddler to press a couple of buttons and that will be the end of the story. USA has been imposing their will for decades now. You haven’t heard about the drones?
Compliment him a lot like you would a dorky little brat.
As bill maher said that this phenomenon is due to the brats in eighties who kicked you the back of your seat in the airplane and the whole you can do anything, trophies for everything that started in the eighties? that led to today.
I would say that this guy has grown up physically and is a good marketer but if you see how he sways back and forth and even holds up the executive orders in the air (see the videos), it is like the qibla hasn’t even hit puberty yet.
PS As for gujranwalay, stop being a queen if you aren’t actually doing chawwalain. The biggest asset that Pakistan have is that it is a nuclear power so America can only be disrupter as EL Presidente says that much; I am sure that even crazies like Flynn and Mattis, both of whom have recent experience in afghanistan, would advise him to not rock the boat.
Perhaps the whole perception of ISI running taliban, which isn’t 100% true, might help as well like how Mossad didn’t mind taking credit for every accident that was blamed on it in the Middle East.
just look at this therad and it is clear no muslim country has any plan.
@queer sir jee, what are you talking about bro? Saudis, UAE and Turkish counterparts to pressure Trump to end his racist policies or have his assets in their countries seized and liquidated to help refugees? allah o akbar.
bhai jan, Trump is not as stupid as everyone thinks. there is a reason why is he sitting in the white house and all of us are scratching our balls thinking hun kee karyaee?
he is a master tactician. he is already playing with Saudis and UAE’s bigger fear masterfully and assuring them he will be super tough on iran. Saudis/UAE loving trump for that, will lick his shoes and in return will make very little noise on Trump’s open support to Israel against Palestinians. For turks, Trump has already partnered with erdogan and putin to finish ISIS and in turn Trump will let erdogan kKurdsurds. and you are expecting saudis, turks, and uae baigharat rulers to stand up to trump? allah o akbar.
and Pakistani ruling elite (military, politcal and bureaucracy) is a proven baigharat entity who has sold the country for few dollars so many times that americans think of them nothing but beggars. Uncle pasha is right that useless nawaz sharif and Qamar Bajwaa will tour USA soon to beg trump and appease him. but what else they can do? i dont blame them.
anwyay, forget everyone else. do what is in your control do. no need to become hero. lets put our house in order. stop playing double policies. stop takin money from USA and then keep on supporting haqanni netwrok. stop supporting terrorist netwroks in pakistan aka jamat dawa and many others. we have zero credibility in western capitals. No one listens to us and believe in us.
master tactician? masturbatician maybe.. the orange buffoon is no tactician.
but i agree, no need to be a hero. but no sitting on your hands and waiting for apocalypse either. Turkey has a big chunk of his assets. So does the UAE. Saudi money talks in the US.
so you really believe that Turkey/UAE/Suadi arabia will pressurize Trump to end his racist policies or have his assets in their countries seized and liquidated to help refugees? waisay sarkar, have you ever lived in saudi or middle east? saudis, UAE themselves are racist brutal states with no respect for human rights whatsoever and you expect them to threaten the US to stop racist policies? plus saudi’s biggest problem is iran. for iran saudis can do anything. trump is iran enemy, so saudis are very happy.
turkey under erodgan has become a dictator state as well with horrible human rights violations. if anything, all these dictator as well as nationalistic regimes will love to partner withTrump. Modi, Putin, Saudi regime, UAE rulers, Netanyahu, right wing french parties, UK and many more.
anyway, I really hope Saudis, UAE and Turkey really do it and challenge the US but looks like a huge dream. as wishful as it gets.
Its just funny and ironic that right one day after signing muslim ban Trump today has calls scheduled with the leaders of Saudia and UAE. Only if a trump supporter had a brain to question it..
Not challenge the US, but challenge Trump, his assets, his finances. The “billionaire” is bankrolled by people saudis have pull over, his business assets in Turkey are more than any other country, UAE is where he has been trying to grow his footprint.
On Fox news they are debating why Pakistan and Saudis were spared in the ban. This is the end of the US as we know it unless something changes soon.