how many wifes is a muslim allowed?

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Peace folks,

وَاسْتَمِعْ يَوْمَ يُنَادِ الْمُنَادِ مِنْ مَكَانٍ قَرِيبٍ
And listen/heed for a "Day" when the caller will call out from a position/place, near,

يَوْمَ يَسْمَعُونَ الصَّيْحَةَ بِالْحَقِّ ذَلِكَ يَوْمُ الْخُرُوجِ
A "Day" when they hear the Blast of the truth: That is the moment/day/stage of regenesis/resurrection/revolution.

I am very happy to see that people are using their God-given intellect to realize what is it that the Quran is saying. This is a very good sign :)

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1 man 1 woman THATS IT.... the reasons given by most 4 wife-supporters are made up nonsense to justify the medieval practice of having multiple wives.

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okey
sorry to every body if i had failed to explain what i am saying
let me try again
you also know that Quran has said to male to marry only one but if anyone wants more he can but with very strict condition of to do adal in between wifes which according to quran is not possible for comman man
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YUSUFALI: Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self-restraint, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

so it is clear that islam is not saying to do 4 marriages but restricting them from the habbit of arabs of doing 50 odds or more
and in the latter it is telling that you can't do justice between women so it is best to do only one

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The conclusions everyone agrees upon, because they're clearly stated in the Quran. The reasons, however, you came up with, are not written in the Quran. They are apologetic arguments for a practice that is now looked VERY down upon in the world, except for some Arab countries.

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arab marries and most others go some other ways you know
if that wouldn't have been the case

diamond mandi type place wouldn't have been open

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In fact, the Quran does give a reason, and that is so that a man can take this path if he feels he will be unfair to the "orphans". This is a clear statement that should not lead anyone into thinking that one can get up and marry any girl they find hot enough to marry once they're tired of their present wife. Furthermore, the Quran also bans you from acting upon your lust, and asks you to base your decision on who to marry upon the woman's character. Hadith's support this as well.

The whole theory that men have a more intense sexual appetite than women is interesting. I find women have a very intense appetite for sex, although its exhibited in a different way, because women aren't raised being allowed to express these thoughts as men do. Secondly, I know quite a few men who get VERY turned off by this argument, because it paints them to be jaahil animals, while women are more rational.
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even in the west if you see, most of the women don't express

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even the hindu books support 1000 odds marriages

King Dashrat had more than one wife, Lord Krishna had several wives
whats your point of view on them

and also you know hinduisam even don't say to marry only once but quran says
it was the Hindu marriage Act which was passed in 1954, which put a ban, and prohibited the Hindu man to marry more than one wife. If you see the statistics, according to a committee report on ‘The status of women in Islam’, which was published in 1975, on page No. 66 and 67, it states the percentage of Polygamous marriages. And it said that… ‘The percentage in which the Hindus did Polygenous marriages, it was 5.06, and the percentage of Muslim Polygenous marriages, was only 4.31’.

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women in islam is not nokar of man to do everything for him as in hinduisam
men have to do his things himself

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Meherealone !!

Many medieval and ancient rulers (Hindus, Romans, Persians, Nordic etc etc etc) had multiple wives. Do I think that was morally right? NO!

A lot of rulers married daughters/sisters of rival kingdoms to ensure truce. Some did it for other reasons. It was a sign of Royalty I guess. As I said, I think it was not morally correct. Also, these cases were limited to kings and royal families (maybe the super rich elite too). The common man did not have multiple wives. Also, in almost all of these civilizations, there was not a religious reason behind it. This is why I'm against the 4 wife rule in Islam. It applies to every man irrespective of his financial status and no matter how many explanations yu give me regarding 'conditions' to be fulfilled before having the 2nd, 3rd or 4th wife, the truth is that there is always going to be forced marriages where these conditions are not fulfilled. (and hence its not fair to women)

PS - I don't think Krishna had multiple wives. I think he had 1 wife, but several girlfriends. He was a Casanova before marriage anyway, a playa, or a male whore, whatever word you wanna use.

EX..
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Youthereloner,

I'm not interested in knowing what Hindus do and what Muslims do. Practice is not what is being preached. Let me tell you one more time that I am part muslim part hindu and I have no motivation to defend your claims against Hindus. As far as I know, none of their books preach polygamy. Yes, there probably were enuff of their elite ppl who were doing it till this act was passed banning them from having multiple wives. In either case, their religion does not teach them to do it where as OURS DOES. You see my point?

The concept of MULTIPLE WIVES is just unfair to women, no matter how many religious or cultural reasons you try to come up with.

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You are forgetting something. Soloman, a Prophet, had well more than 4 wives. What was the number? :)

The issue is not whether its right or wrong. Its pragmatism and human biology, that is all. In the early days, there weren't as many people, and survival was difficult. Marrying more than 1 wife ensured that you produced an heir. Additionally, with the constant warfare, and danger that women were in, it was a safety mechanism. You can see this in present day Africa where women insist on living in polygamous households. The situation is so terrible, that these are the only options they really have. Stay with the safe man, and the safe man is the one that has proven himself by supporting other women.

In today's urban setting, you don't have this issue. There is a sense of law and order. No woman needs to become a prostitute, as long as she educates herself and can find herself a job. Survival is no longer a big issue.

Its a cold reality. There is none of this "marry one person, because that's romantic and nice", or "marry as many women as you want, because your nature is to lust".

Its always been about what is best for all parties.

Some have manipulated all this to make it seem that they have this right, because they have an unsatiable sexual desire. Don't they then, read the Quran when it tells them to control themselves? Don't they follow the Prophet's example, by fasting?

How about taking a cold shower? Works for lots of people.

(Red light districts - point well taken - exist because men have made them exist. Now, to eliminate this problem, you can't very well create another problem of family disharmony by telling these men to just get another wife. For one, the excitement is in the fact that its wrong and illegal and secretive. Secondly, its a power trip. Third, there is no financial responsibilities. They don't have to buy jack for these women, except pay for the services and move on. Even then, often times, they don't pay for the services. Some policemen harass the brothel girls to sleep with them, or they'll turn them in! Has nothing to do with man's natural desire to be with women. It has to do with a criminal mentality, and you can't reward that by giving these ghatiya men 4 wives. Fourth, men who frequent brothels are the minority, not the majority).

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honestly one can't be part muslim and part hindu

muslim is the one who submit his will to Allah swt
and its not Allah's will to worship idols

and secondly again you don't understand my point of view

i had quoted the verse that man can't be fair and just among women
and that is the reason why islam says to marry once

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go and read different religions , not a single religion except islam who says marry only once
If you read the Jewish Scriptures, the Jewish law allowed ‘Polygeny’ in the 11th century. It was only when Rabi Gurdshom Benjahuda, he passed a Signord and said… ‘Polygeny should not be allowed’. Still, it was practiced by the Septranic Jewish community, in the Muslim countries… until in 1950, the chief Rabainite of Israel, put a ban on it. The Christian Bible allows Polygeny - only a couple of centuries ago, the Church put a ban on it

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^^ Youtherealone,

When I say 'part muslim part hindu' it means one of my parents is Muslim and the other is Hindu.. I don't follow either religions.. but I study both of them, and the others too.

You're still not getting my point. Why do you keep trying to point out other faiths who at some point allowed their common men to have multiple wives? The point is that they banned it sooner or later right? That right there stops me for lecturing them about it, because they dont sponsor it anymore. Some of them Christians or Jews or Hindus still might do it but their religion/religious authorities do not support it at least. But in Islam, the religion and the religious authorities still support the concept.. not only that.. people come up with hundreds of twisted explanations defending it.. (you do it only bcuz you WANT to defend it).. the point is simple... ITS JUST NOT RIGHT !

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but you know that was before present form of islam ie before quran

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The issue is not whether its right or wrong. Its pragmatism and human biology, that is all. In the early days, there weren't as many people, and survival was difficult. Marrying more than 1 wife ensured that you produced an heir. Additionally, with the constant warfare, and danger that women were in, it was a safety mechanism. You can see this in present day Africa where women insist on living in polygamous households. The situation is so terrible, that these are the only options they really have. Stay with the safe man, and the safe man is the one that has proven himself by supporting other women.

In today's urban setting, you don't have this issue. There is a sense of law and order.

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agreed

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No woman needs to become a prostitute, as long as she educates herself and can find herself a job. Survival is no longer a big issue.

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don't say no , say most

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Its a cold reality. There is none of this "marry one person, because that's romantic and nice", or "marry as many women as you want, because your nature is to lust".

Its always been about what is best for all parties.

Some have manipulated all this to make it seem that they have this right, because they have an unsatiable sexual desire. Don't they then, read the Quran when it tells them to control themselves? Don't they follow the Prophet's example, by fasting?

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that is also the hijab for men declared by islam
but who cares about islam when it is upto them

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How about taking a cold shower? Works for lots of people.

(Red light districts - point well taken - exist because men have made them exist. Now, to eliminate this problem, you can't very well create another problem of family disharmony by telling these men to just get another wife. For one, the excitement is in the fact that its wrong and illegal and secretive. Secondly, its a power trip. Third, there is no financial responsibilities. They don't have to buy jack for these women, except pay for the services and move on. Even then, often times, they don't pay for the services. Some policemen harass the brothel girls to sleep with them, or they'll turn them in! Has nothing to do with man's natural desire to be with women. It has to do with a criminal mentality, and you can't reward that by giving these ghatiya men 4 wives. Fourth, men who frequent brothels are the minority, not the majority).
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but this is the truth
if you calculate all
minority who goes to them
minority who marriages more then once by claiming that islam allows to marry more then onces
and third who wants but are unable to do so

if you calculate them all they become majority

don't you ever consider why islam says to men to lower their eyes
is it simple for men

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i am really failed to make you understand what i am saying
islam is not saying that marry more
islam is saying marry only once
but islam is also saying that it is not haram to marry more then one
but it is more then difficult to do just betwen them which is the requirement
there are many situations when one need to do marry again, you might know better then me
in this way islam is neither restricting nor allowing freely , it all depends upon situation but the best is to marry only once

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^^ Youtherealone, Now you're just using vague arguments trying to justify it. There is no logical reason for limiting the number to 4 (and not 5, or 8, or 3). There is not morally right reason to allow men to have wives but not the other way around. You can come up with random circumstances (chances of that happening < 0.0001%) trying to justify it. I'm pretty sure I can come with such nonsense circumstances too which could 'justify' 1 girl having multiple hubbys.

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yeah, marry more than one WIDOW, in a war or famine situation... the intent is to be just to the ORPHANS by giving them shelter.

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I am not an expert, but I have talked to Islamic scholars from Pakistan and they belief that nne should not marry more than once just for fun/lust or whatever but if one feels they can pull off another wife and both husband and wife agree, the husband should gladly marry another girl.

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^^ yea just like if the hubby and wife both agree, she shud be allowed to have another husband.

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that as per vedas you study, but not as per Islam.

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Rubbish...the two are in no way functionally equivalent, given the primary biological reason for sexual unions in the first place.

Why limit to four? Perhaps it's arbitrary. Perhaps it's not. Why limit it to one? Equality? Gender-political equality is a concept that only started figuring in social relations in the past few decades.

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now you are on the way of "main na manoon har "
i have tried my best , but i think you don't want to understand
plz read my answers again

and this time you also come up with a new question why 4, not 5, 8, or 3

i have no real answer to this, only my guess , which can be wrong or write
because Allah havn't told that as far as my knowledge is concerned