How long will it take for a Pakistani company? to reach where Toyota is right now.

Toyota, and Honda are standards for innovation, engineering, and reliability in auto industry. This is from a country that was nuked only 60 years ago.

Instead of launching tribalistic suicidal sadistic Jihad, Japanese gained trust of their occupiers. They went to basics, worked hard, and now look them.

OTOH, Pakistanis were never occupied by US (in fact US has always given us $$ for defense contracts), and still Pak youth is filled with useless anger, thanks to commie leftie and Mullahtic hate campaign.

Toyota profit soars on sales
Wed May 10, 2006 5:56 AM ET

			 By Chang-Ran Kim, Asia auto correspondent

TOKYO (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp. <7203.T>, the world’s most profitable car maker, booked a 53 percent rise in quarterly operating profit on Wednesday on healthy sales, cost cuts and a weaker yen, and predicted more growth this year despite currency headwinds and a spike in capital outlays.
Riding a reputation for making good, reasonably priced cars, Japan’s top auto maker has won over customers around the globe, adding half-a-million cars to its annual sales for the past five years. It expects to build more than 9 million vehicles in 2006.
Toyota, whose market capitalization of $217 billion values it higher than the South African economy, has cranked up profits to record levels even as it faced soaring raw materials prices and cut-throat competition and spent more on facilities and vehicle development.
Compiling group-based earnings forecasts for the first time, the leading maker of fuel-sipping hybrid cars projected a modest 1.2 percent rise in operating profit to 1.9 trillion yen ($17 billion) in the year to end-March 2007.
“The conservative estimates are understandable given that (Detroit’s) Big Three are not doing so well,” said Kazuhide Hayashi, a fund manager at Norinchukin Zenkyoren Asset Management.
A survey of 21 brokers by Reuters Estimates put the profit figure at a more bullish 2.013 trillion yen for 2006/07.
The growth would come despite a rise in anticipated capital expenditure to a record 1.55 trillion yen this year from 1.5288 trillion yen spent last year, with new capacity coming online in China, North America and Russia over the next few years.
Toyota also expects to jack up spending on research and development by more than 100 billion yen to 920 billion yen this year as it prepares to launch a third-generation hybrid system.
“We want to further strengthen the momentum of rising revenue and profits,” President Katsuaki Watanabe told a news conference. “But spending on R&D and facilities is going to stay high, and how to manage this is a going to be a big issue for us.”
At the net level, Toyota forecast a 4.5 percent fall to 1.31 trillion yen from last year, when it saw valuation gains from the merger of UFJ Holdings into Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group <8306.T>. Without that factor, the profit would rise, it said.
The projections were based on assumed dollar and euro rates of 110 and 135 yen versus an average 113 and 138 yen last year.
SALES CHARGE SEEN CONTINUING
Most of Toyota’s domestic rivals also reported record annual earnings as they won more customers from North America to Europe.
U.S. auto giants General Motors <GM.N> and Ford Motor <F.N>, meanwhile, have plunged to losses under attack from Asian competition and burdened by legacy costs, prompting massive job cuts and plant closures. In Europe, Volkswagen <VOWG.DE> is also looking to shed tens of thousands of jobs.
Toyota, which last month outsold DaimlerChrysler <DCXGn.DE> in the United States, said it expects to drive up global sales by another 6.0 percent to 8.45 million vehicles this business year, counting trucks and cars built by units Hino Motors Ltd. <7205.T> and Daihatsu Motor Co. <7262.T>.
Toyota expects the biggest contribution to come from North America, where it faces a rare challenge to its seemingly spotless image from a high-profile sexual harassment lawsuit that led to the resignation this week of its top U.S. executive accused of groping his former assistant.
Watanabe declined specific comment on the case beyond saying it was a “grave” matter, but added he expected the scandal to pose no damage to Toyota’s bottom line.
For its January-March fourth quarter, the maker of the Prius and Camry sedans had an operating profit of 586.70 billion yen ($5.28 billion), beating market estimates for 493.7 billion yen. Net profit climbed 39 percent to 404.10 billion yen, and revenue was up 17.8 percent at 5.75 trillion yen.
For 2006/07, Toyota forecast record revenues of 22.30 trillion yen, up 6.0 percent.
Responding to criticism from some quarters that it was slow to reward shareholders, Toyota raised its dividend for the last business year to 90 yen per share from 65 yen in 2004/05, putting its group-based dividend payout ratio at 21.3 percent.
Watanabe said Toyota would aim to boost the ratio to 30 percent in three to five years, offering a timeframe for the first time.
Toyota also said it would seek approval to buy back up to 200 billion yen ($1.8 billion) of its own shares by June 2007. The planned purchase, representing 30 million shares, would account for less than 1 percent of outstanding stock.
Shares in Toyota gained 5.1 percent in January-March, underperforming the main Nikkei stock index <.N225> and a 7.3 percent rise in Tokyo’s transport sector subindex <.ITEQP.T>.
The stock has since climbed another 5 percent, but it closed down 0.7 percent at 6,680 yen ahead of the results on Wednesday.

Re: How long will it take for a Pakistani company? to reach where Toyota is right now.

you are forgetting that Japan before getting nuked was still very far ahead in Technology compared to area which now comprises Pakistan. We have been trampled with martial laws one after the other, no stability in politics leads to instability in economy, then we had to deal with Afghan wars. if you really want to compare then Koreas might be a better example IMO. give Pakistan 20 years (at current rate of growth) and you'll see us competing on international level.

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No excuses please!

Japan and SK thrived under military or fuedal rules.

SK is good example. Thanks. However 20 years is a bit optimistic.

1....20 years ago Hyundai had their cars being exported to the US. They were not very good, but still decent enough to be "exported".
2...20 years ago SK and its people (majority) were strongly loyal to the US.

So the question remains: How long will it take for a Pakistani company to reach where Toyota, Honda, or Hyundai is right now.

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To some extent I agree that martial law alone is not a good excuse. What provides fuel for growth is how our lawmakers handle the industry and what kind of laws are made. I will give you couple of examples:

  1. A minister is interested in luxury cars, he orders a large shipment of BMWs, the shipment is about to arrive tomorrow, import tax an luxury cars is trashed close to 0%, ship arrives on port and cars clear the custom... 2 days later import on luxury car is back upto somewhere 100-200% (?).

  2. Our import policy doesn't dictate that some technology of imported machinery should be learnt/imported as well, Indian policy does that!

  3. Indian ministers drive in what cars? Our ministers drive Mercedes, BMWs, Lexus, Pajero at the cost of national taxpayers. Result, we are promoting import, they are promoting domestic production.

  4. There were couple of engineers who desiged their own cars/mini-trucks, result? They are perhaps working for some factory as mechanic/technician. Govt would sponsor/help them establish a manufacturing facility. There was one mini-truck that was economical and also started production but failed due to imports.

I don't think you would want more examples :D

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So the question remains: How long will it take for a Pakistani company to reach where Toyota, Honda, or Hyundai is right now.
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China is about to export its car(s) to US after how many years of being in technology business?

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BTW, your blaming for "suicide attacks"/tribalistic behavior towards US interests is useless. Its our own internal undoing as you can see in my above post.

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Yeap! ZA Bhutto and his leftie commie darbaris single handedly killed Pak industry. His policy of nationalization of banks, industry, and schools was so devastating that it may take another 50 years to come out of it.

Chinese industrialists just like Korean and Japanese are strongly pro-US. And the huge US market allows them to earn enough money for building up their industry.

Chinese car industry is where SK was 20 years ago.

At this moment neither Chinese nor SK car makers are in the same league as Toyota and Honda. However they are at least on "Siraate Mustaqeem" (the correct path) of Auto industry. Pakistanis however are still stuck in Mullahtic and Arab version of "Siraate Mustaqeem". Sad utterly sad!

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Antiobl, you oversimplify once more.

You make it sound like Toyota started from nothing 60 yearsa ago - overlooking the fact that Toyota's vehicle factories were never attacked in World War 2 (peace came shortly before the planned attack on the factories in Aichi were due for a carpet bombing).

Toyota was able to draw on Japan's long history of engineering the internal combustion engine.

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GS is not a tech journal so yes the things have to be simplified for general audience.

The emphasis on 60 years is important. As the end of WWII meant occupation of Japan by those bad bad Western forces.

Had Japanese delved on the "defeat", and started a liberation movement aka terrorism aka resistance movement, Aichi and leechi both will be few bowls of dust by now.

However Japanese, (followed by S. Korean, followed by Chinese) industrialists and government officials worked hand in had to snub and curb anti-US Mullahs (local religious or nationalist leaders).

The result was obviously peace with US, and open access to "HUGE" US market.

So the question remains: How long will it take for a Pakistani company to reach where Toyota is right now? And please no excuses!

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China has done rather well in the last 60 years, without a day of yankie occupation.

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Not 60 years. Their commie revolution was in 1948. However they did well only when they started making shoes for the Wal Mart. Oops Wal Mart is just another yankie doodle do company.

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Whether it began in 1945, 1948 or 1949 is immaterial - not one day in that 57, 58or 61 year period was under US occupation, and look how far China has come.

Yes American's are just too darned lazy today these days to do any hard work, and are buying Chinese goods by the hundreds of billions.

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oo antiobl,

let me explain this to you in your own simple language. like you said in another thread, china is nation of mistris, india is nation of munshis, japan is nation of injayneeyars, pakistan is nation of doodhwalas. so you must urge your ilk along the path you prescribed for the natives of chaman - milk your buffalos, make cheese, turn bunjaab into bourdaux. leave car building to people who can. rab rakha tey au revoir.

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^ :hehe:

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Welcome back Queer! Good to see you recovering from Urad daal constipation.

Pakistan may milk their cows and make cheese. Bihar however shall remain mired in abject poverty. That will make Biharis the most successful in the world, for consuming urad daal off course. Oh the stink!

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So Americans are too lazy to make shoes, or they too lazy to do Munshi giri for Dell. Or may be Chinese or Bharatis are smarter than Ayatullahs that they go and beg plead Uncle Sam.

Oh chucha Sam! Please, we can "fly" (fry) your garlic, we can make your shoes only for One Dollah (dollar).

Or Oh chucha Sam! Please pay us 1 dollar an hour and our HI-T will take care of dell tech support.

Yes sure! Americans are too lazy, and Chinese and Bharatis are too eager to serve. No matter what, Ayatullahs will remain losers (in this world and the world hereafter).

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o baboo ram, bunjaab bihar UP all same cow belt nation. one is under the boot of thakurs, one is under the boot of chaudhries. both milk cows for a living. laloo yadav ho ya nawaz sharif, gobar smells the same. o cheti nuss bordeaux di or, baji.

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China exports to USA (2005) - $ 244 billion.
US exports to China (2005) - $42 billion.

American's just can't get enough of Made in China products.

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I'm sure a Pakistani company will become as big as Toyota right after a British company does. After all, British companies have had a lot longer than any pakistani company, easier access to a lot more capital, and any number of other advantages.....

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I really appreciate your role models.

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It seems you didn't appreciate my irony. Britain's industrial sector has always been far stronger than Pakistan's and still is far stronger, yet Britain has produced no company to rival Toyota. Despite Britain doing what Toyota does for much longer than Toyota.