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This thread is meant for all three major Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) to discuss how scholars in their respective religions are qualified for the title of a scholar and what should change (if any) in the process.
Me being a muslim can comment on Islamic scholars, I have never known what makes a muslim a scholar. I see that nowadays whoever turns out to be a good public speaker with some reliance on religious education starts being called a scholar. Is there a common criteria? Is there a difference between scholars from different countries? At what point do we start calling a religious person a Scholar of religion.
What does every one else think?
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
well if u are doing islamic studies for the rest of your life then i think he is a scholar...
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
well if u are doing islamic studies for the rest of your life then i think he is a scholar...
Yes but how much is enough. I study religion a lot, does that make me a scholar? I think not.
What is the standard?
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
well they have said that if u study in a particular madrasa or university then u can qualify as one and nowadays a scholar gets a particular sanad or a certificate to say hes a scholar
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
well they have said that if u study in a particular madrasa or university then u can qualify as one and nowadays a scholar gets a particular sanad or a certificate to say hes a scholar
And this is where I have the confusion. Does the world or how many other institutions recognize graduates from XYZ madrassahs of religious schools as scholars. In the Islamic world at least there is no standard body that defines the standard for a scholar and every religious school must adhere to that standard. So being a scholar may give you authority without the necessary amount of knowledge required for it.
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
see thats the thing your right not many recognize these places for example
have u heard of Al azhar university the oldest islamic uni in the world in egypt
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
see thats the thing your right not many recognize these places for example
have u heard of Al azhar university the oldest islamic uni in the world in egypt
Sure have.
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
in al azhar u complete the course then u get a certificate plus its like any other education u get a b.a hons degree
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
A person is recognized as a scholar when the scholars they have studied under consider the person to be a scholar. That is the traditional way. It's not just the knowledge that the person must have, he should act on that knowledge.
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
A person is recognized as a scholar when the scholars they have studied under consider the person to be a scholar. That is the traditional way. It's not just the knowledge that the person must have, he should act on that knowledge.
well said but knowledge plays a big role you have to have knowledge for any scholar to say u are a scholar
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
well said but knowledge plays a big role you have to have knowledge for any scholar to say u are a scholar
Yes you have to have knowledge in all areas but if your acting like the regular joe by not showing that knowledge outwardly then you should not be considered a scholar.
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yes tru the saying is "act upon what u say and what u take in".....well islamicly
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
From a Christian perspective, I can but state what Jesus taught: Let no-one call you Teacher (Rabbi/scholar).
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
in al azhar u complete the course then u get a certificate plus its like any other education u get a b.a hons degree
So what credentials does one have to possess to be a scholar. My next thing would be can any scholars issue edicts then?
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
According to Quran and the sayings of Prophet Mohammad(S)
1.Seek knowledge even if that be in China.
2.Those who are learned know god more better and are afraid of him.
3.How that who is a learned be compared to the one not learned.
4.Among the owner of the Book there are people who are afraid of God 5.Almighty and wake at night for prayers.
If you are a learned man you are a scholar and that needs not a degree, but it is essential to become well known to something. For that on has to make a search for a sincere and able teacher who are rare.
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
A person is recognized as a scholar when the scholars they have studied under consider the person to be a scholar. That is the traditional way. It's not just the knowledge that the person must have, he should act on that knowledge.
Yes traditionally when mass schooling was not the norm this is how people were taught however today and there were a few but well-known teachers, knowledge mostly resides within books. Experience is taught by others though. So does having just a certain amount of knowledge make you a scholar or does it need to be qualified, say for instance, the person has to be a hafiz, he needs to know yay many ahadith, he should have provided a fatwa on some new issue which has not yet been dealt with by other scholars etc.
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
From a Christian perspective, I can but state what Jesus taught: Let no-one call you Teacher (Rabbi/scholar).
So everyone is a student but how do you determine the status of a scholar in Christianity then. Like how are different positions given i.e. Pastor, Bishop, Priest, Minister, Reverend etc.
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
see thats the thing your right not many recognize these places for example
have u heard of Al azhar university the oldest islamic uni in the world in egypt
Al azhar university is been run by Micky mouse and tom and jerry now a days this is the same university who had gave fatwa tht all haasra tul araz r halal even bees and cockroach? so who is now a days eating these kind of halal things
Re: How do you qualify a scholar?
Isnad, and Ijaza.
isnad is the lineage going back to prophet pbuh, and ijaza is the ijazat or Permission to be a scholar given by muftis. If you dont have the above mentioned two, you're not a scholar.
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So everyone is a student but how do you determine the status of a scholar in Christianity then. Like how are different positions given i.e. Pastor, Bishop, Priest, Minister, Reverend etc.
Jesus taught that Christians should not argue about who has what status before God and over other people. In Christianity, one should consider oneself a slave to God.
Positions as mentioned by you are just that: an hierarchy in the particular church w.r.t. leadership. It does not point to the one being more learned or more pious than the other. Often it involves religious politics.
In Christianity people that consider themselves as being "scholars", call themselves "theologians". Unfortunately being a theologian does not mean the person knows God and His mind, but often that he understand Christianity as a philosophical subject. Many of them are atheists and agnostics.