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Actually, you CAN talk to her about it by bringing it up in a playful way. Just say, ammi (or whatever you call her), so and so mentioned the other day that you said this about me.. that's funny because I didn't really wear that or do that. Confront her upfront. You don't have to sit and talk it out like a naik bahu but if it's really bothering you, that's the only thing that will help you. This way, she will also know that you're aware of what she says behind your back and might be more careful before saying anything in the future. You can also mention that your husband knows as well. Speaking to most husbands doesn't do anything IMO.. yes they may side with you but they are dealing with their mothers in the situation. If they confront her, MIL might turn more negative towards you for 'snitching'. If you really cannot ignore it and it bothers you then just be upfront about it. I share a good relationship with my MIL where she has told me since day one to be honest with her and to discuss any issue I may have with her or anyone else. I don't necessarily talk to her about every single thing but I know that if I heard her backbiting about me, I will be really upset and call her up to discuss it.

P.S- If she denies saying anything, you can say, oh Im sorry.. I knew you would never talk like that.. but so and so was being so stupid and telling me all these lies. Make it sound like you're doing their shikayat with your mil instead of complaining about her. This way she can deal with the third party herself ;)

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Hi Bubli,

My advice is going to be much like everyone else's because it's more practical. Having it out with your MIL will backfire BIG TIME because that can create problems between you and your husband. Some things to reflect over:

1) You don't see this woman very often. She lives far away. Thank God for such a huge blessing.

2) Your MIL doesn't have a life. To be gossiping about a freakin HOODIE? How sad is that? You want to know why she's resorting to such low behavior? It's becasue like many MILS she feels jealous and insecure. She probably thinks that you are stealing her son away from her. Or she probably thinks that her son is not paying as much attention to HER since you came into his life. Will she admit this to you? No! But the root cause of her behavior is her own insecurities.

3) ** Have you ever heard the saying that, **"Anybody who gossips about OTHERS to YOU.....can also gossip about YOU to OTHERS." And I've found this to be TRUE. Be careful around your SIL. If she says negative things to you about your MIL, don't respond by saying negative things about your MIL to her. For all you know...........she could be relaying what you say back to your MIL. Also, who knows if your SIL isn't fabricating things? And.........anything can happen. What if you get into an argument with your SIL in the future sometime.......and she decides to screw you over by telling MIL all the things you've told her. So.........keep your conversations with SIL neutral and trouble-free.

4) ** Getting your husband involved might cause problems because you can't really tell him about the evil his mother is doing without implicating others. And it's the "implicating others" part that is going to create a mess.

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SUGGESTIONS:

1) ** Continue being a **polite DIL to your monstrous MIL. And continue being a cheerful, happy, wife to your husband. This will PISS OFF your MIL even more. You see, the TRUTH is that your MIL wants to see you MISERABLE. And if you give into her and act miserable..................then you're giving her satisfaction. On the other hand........if you act happy..........it will irritate her soul even more. Think about it...........we don't like seeing the people we hate being happy.

2) Try bonding with her......so she feels more secure about herself. Once she sees that you care about her..........she might mend her ways. Be kind and caring toward her. Spend time wither. When you and hubby go out, invite her to come along sometimes. Perhaps she'll feel more at ease.

3) **IDEA**: I don't know how well this is going to work. But you can think about this and consider the consequences......and try it out if you think it might make a difference without implicating you or others.

Get a book on religion.....maybe one that has hadith in it. Sit on the couch and read the book. Sport a deeply engrossed and interested expression on your face. When your MIL sees you......and if she asks you what you're reading.......tell her you're reading a book on hadith. And then share a couple of small hadith that you've learned from the book.

AND THEN..................share a hadith with your MIL about GOSSIP. Tell her the hadith that gossiping in Islam is equivalent to eating the flesh of your brother/sister. Tell your MIL that when a person backbites about his brother.........as punishment his good deeds are transferred to his brother.........and he ends up getting the bad deeds of the person who is being gossiped about.

While telling this to your MIL.............you need to keep a very natural and believable expression. You should act surprised and scared at the hadith. You should say to your MIL: "Aunti/Ammi, this is pretty scary to know that we can so easily lose our good deeds by saying unpleasant things about others. And the sad thing is that people gossip about the littlest things such as what clothes **a person is wearing or how a person looks. I've heard horrible stories of how friends, classmates, siblings, in-laws can ruin a person's reputation through gossiping. I'm glad that you and I don't have that problem, Ammi. I'm fortunate to have such a ***CARING* mother-in-law. After reading this hadith, we as Muslims should be more careful about hurting others as Allah is watching us." (Plus, if she complains to your husband that you're lecturing her, you can always say that you were just discussing a book on Hadith. So you're covered!**)

************** In Islam, the best way to teach someone a lesson it do it without humiliating the person. If you had an ALL OUT ARGUMENT **with your MIL.............and exposed her to your husband.....she would feel embarrassed and might become too resentful to mend her ways. Plus, your MIL might lie to defend herself and your husband could get upset with you. **BUT if you teach her a lesson using Islamic reference in a natural and INDIRECT way.........without humiliating her............it might make her guilty enough to have an impact. ;)

I hope you feel better and best wishes :)

I am going to add to this by saying:

Your MIL is your MIL...not your mother. She can never love you the way she loves her son or forgive you the way she forgives her son. So dont expect it from her. This exact same philosophy applies to every single member of your inlaws' family.

The best way to counter this is to be an angel. Im DEAD serious...be a freaking angel and show everyone around you how wrong she really is. Never answer back, call her AMMI, be polite to her and SUPER POLITE in front of others, do khidmat as much as you can, call her regularly, ENCOURAGE YOUR HUSBAND TO DO THE SAME so he knows you're not the bad guy (if he hears anything of the sort, he should be able to think for himself and say "you're wrong, my wife is actually a saint to my mother"), send her gifts, NEVER EVER agree with anything negative anyone says about her, etc.

Lets say you have a friend who hates another mutual acquaintance you havent had the opportunity of knowing. Your friend simply cannot stand this 3rd party and tells you how horrible of a person she is night and day. But when you meet this 3rd party...she is so sweet to you...you end up thinking your friend must have lost her marbles. Thats the idea here. Complaining to your husband or MIL will accomplish zilch and give your more grief and drama then you can handle!!! So dont. Be the best you can be to her face and in front of others so people automatically think she is a nut. Thats it. Your job here is done.

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^ 100% SECOND RV and PSquared's advice!!!

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Also, don't trust anyone who tells you that somebody has been talking about you, you should doubt their intentions and understand that they will be putting an angle on it to get your riled / look in a negative light.

bubli24. just IGNORE such things. they are really petty. stay busy enjoy your life. if you keep dwelling on such petty stuff you will fill yourself with anger one day and say or do something really stupid that you might regret forever.

making such dumblittle things ossues and getting angry over them will only lead you to the path of ruin in your life.

think about the good things your mil has done for you and the good things she has said about you. that will fill your heart with love for her and replace this garbage negativity thatis in your heart now.

be wise. don<t give such nonsense another thought. exit all bad thoughts for your mil out of your mind as soon as they come in if you want to have a happily married life. be the better person. you will feel so good, you will have so much more peace in your life if you dont take such things seriously.

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bulbuli,

i agree what ur MIL is doing is not nice... its never nice to talk about people.... but having said that, it's not very wise of ur dewrani or other members of the family telling you what she says

they should try to keep peace... maybe they should not listen to what she says, or even tell her they dont want to be a part of the mocking and end it there... if they are ur friends and want to be kind to you, then they should not spread what ur MIL says...

really, its that simple.

and when they tell u stuff, u tell them, cus u havent heard anything urself, then u dont know whether to believe it or not. Dont let them stir u up either.

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Also,

PSquared and Redvelvet.. u guys give really good advice..

lekin i just wanna say

in doing so.... dont put in comments like "monstorous MIL" or "ur mother in law cane be the same as ur mother" :)

sorry guys..

but i just dont agree with such type of words being used... if someone is having issues with someone... rather than fueling it more (and i know u guys dont, but these words can be taken literally)... we need to be calming the situation.

For all we know, the MIL doesnt even say anything and its the others around her trying to stir things up....

I just added the monstrous MIL alliteration for humor, lol. The MAJORITY of my advice emphasizes tolerance and respect. I think **Bubli **will understand from the BULK of my post that I do not have the intention to fuel her negative feelings and nor am I encouraging her to act upon them. She's a smart girl, and although she's upset.......she'll understand that most everyone is advising her to stay calm and act with prudence. :)

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^ yeah I know :) that's why i acknowledged how you both give really good advice

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Hey Sadzzz, I know you're right.

I'll just clarify then for the sake of the thread starter that when I say "your MIL can never be the same as your mother"...my only objective is to help you understand that your actions need to be checked even more so.

Our parents forgive us for almost ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. Often times, without us even asking for forgiveness. Our Inlaws may not easily look past our misbehavior as "bacha hai...janey do...koi baat nahin". They can do that for their son...their flesh and blood but its not easy to do with someone else's child. Keep that in mind when you say something or do something. Every time we say sorry to our parents, they forgive us with no qualms and we never hear of our misbehavior again. That doesnt hold true for inlaws...or at least most inlaws...so pleaseeee...watch your tongues and actions. Leave no room for misinterpretations or misunderstandings and never be the one someone can point a finger at.

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^ yeah good post :k:

also, sometimes it can take a lifetime to understand someone and their personality… hence just let it go.

Sounds like a very immature thread. God forbid you ever come across any real issues in life!

And all this talk based on hearsay? "devrani told me that MIL said this about me to her?"

and what are the chances that your devrani herself told you not to tell anyone that she told you this?:)

When such behavior (backbiting) happens consistently/often…it can become problematic because it changes your perception of the offender and it causes you to lose trust in the person. And that’s harmful for relationships. PLUS, nobody wants their reputation marred in society.

I’ve read a hadith that slandering is WORSE than murdering someone. Because when you murder someone, at least the victim is there to try and defend him/herself. But when you slander someone’s reputation BEHIND THEIR BACK…the victim is not there to defend his reputation. So…no…it’s not an immature problem. Anything that involves your reputation is serious. What may not be a big deal to us could pose as a huge deal to somoene else. We try to give constructive advice…and if we can’t even do that…then we don’t respond. :halo:

Agreed ! It does hurt alot when some1 tries to damage your reputation like I said GHEEBAT has been forbidden by Allah for very good reasons.

But what I have learned from my life and life of others there is only an extent to which u can mess up with your inlaws esp MIL . Leave the matter on Allah and have faith tht He will do Insaaf and believe me He does Insaaf sooner or later.

I would be most worried if my MIL starts badmouthing abt me with my husband bcuz we all listen to our moms and we believe whatever she says is right and this is when MILs start changing minds of husbands and it does happen. It can even happen after a just 10 mins session of ur MIL with ur hubby , she may not directly say anything against you but can put things in ur hubbys mind by praising someone else …just watch out for that ! If that is not happening then plz don’t create problems in your life and plz dont mess around with your relationship with ur hubby. You will only help others in achieving their objective of making your life mess and upseting by doing all this.

As long as u and ur hubby r fine with each other let everyone else do what they want . When people will see how happy u both r with each other they will automaticaly change tehir perceptiob abt u !

Your comments are well taken, but unfortunately they do not take into perspective the fact that..

  1. her devrani herself is committing gheebat by talking about her mother in law behind her back.
  2. the poster herself is committing gheebat by talking about her mother in law behind her back (on a public forum, of all places).
  3. We as the ‘audience’ do not have the right to judge her MIL, since we have only heard one side of the story.

The only thing I heard her say was that her MIL commented on the fact that the poster was wearing the same hoodie as before. How is that a bad thing? And how is that gheebat to begin with? For all we know, her MIL might have been suggesting that she should buy new clothes, and that she should care more about herself.
All negatives in this thread, based on what the poster heard from a third party. These are the kind of immature stances that destroy relationships. When a person is married, more maturity, patience, and regard is expected of him/her. Such minor issues (if they can be called that), dont deserve the time of day.

Its true…only a woman ruins another woman’s life. If the ‘complaint’ in this thread is to be taken hook, line and sinker, its the devrani who should be blamed, not the MIL.

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very well said ! :champ:

dont trust your sister in law, yaar! she is a trouble maker! i think if she can talk bad about her mother-in-law then she must be talking bad about you with others! so dont believe everything she says and becareful of her!

your mother in law sounds like a bitter, bored woman! yaar, you can't stop such stupid people from backbiting! no point confronting the woman as she will just start an argument!

no point nagging husband about it because he is already in the middle trying to please his two women! he cant confront his mother for you, that is too much to ask yaar! you cant put him in that position! but sure tell him what is going on as it will make you feel better but try not to use bad words about his mother!

you are v lucky yaar that you live so far from your mother in law. vhat a blessing yaar! vhat a blessing! many women here will surely envy you for this!

ignore what your mil says. be nice and hold your tongue!

EXACTLY!!!!

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First of all, the MIL should not be complaining about Bubli's hoodie to others. It's a real petty issue to be destroying her reputation over. It's just a hoodie and not something scandalous like a mini skirt.

Secondly, it is not the SIL's business to go around reporting to others what MIL is saying about them. The SIL, in my opinion, should not be trusted. It seems to me that she is looking to create drama within the family for her own amusement.

Third, the MIL is gossiping about** Bubli** to people that KNOW Bubli. This is WORSE than a person seeking help/advice on an ANONYMOUS forum. We on Gupshup do not know who Bubli is. We don't know what she looks like. We do not know the identities of her MIL or her SIL. BUT the MIL is gossiping about Bubli to people who **KNOW **her. That is more harmful to Bubli's reputation.

While forgiveness and tolerance are more valued.........Islam gives us the right to retaliation as long as it is equivalent to the offense. The people who have responded to this thread have advised Bubli.............in a manner that does not fuel her anger........and that promotes the safeguarding of her marriage......which is the **top priority **here.

If we accuse Bubli of gossiping............then in that case..........we would also have to accuse the** OTHER ANONYMOUS members who come to the **Life/Relationships Forum seeking advice/help of **gossiping **as well. In my opinion............one can't compare the seeking of help/advice........and gossiping for the hell of it on the same level. They intentions behind the two situations are different. And it is encouraged that we seek proper advice regarding our issues.......as opposed to adopting more detrimental methods.