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*Originally posted by yahudi: *
What is the sense of a religion, if for Jews all non-Jews are disbelievers, so for Hindus and for Muslims?
This is not an excuse that Napoleon or Mussolini killed so many people. Did Hitler raise the Christian flag anywhere?
I think you misunderstand me. I'm not saying kill other people just becuase they odn't share your faith. But it's normal to believe in a certain religion, and that those who don't believe in it are not going to heaven.
You yourself were previously critising Islam, one of your critics somewhere was that Islam is the religion spreading hatred becuase in Quran non-believers are called this and that. I don't remember your exact words. All I was saying was, that practically ALL religions have this. What's the use of having a religion, if not following it you will still be rewarded. It's normal to think that non-believers will be punished by God. But NOBODY says that's the green light to kill non-believers!
Some times I feel that Al Qaeda, Bin Laden & co. are real Muslims.
I don't know about Bin Laden, I seriously doubt if he is the terrorist that he is branded by the west. I haven't seen any solid proove against him!
The rest I don't have any knowledge of.
So what are real muslims according to you?
Every third or fourth verse in Quran condemns the disbelievers.
What wrong these people have done, if have followed these verses?
There is a difference between saying disbelievers will be punished by God and actually killing them for no other reason than their different believe. I haven't read anywhere, nor did I hear this from any muslim either, that it's oké to kill disbelievers just because they don't share your faith!
Where do you get your information from? Not all information is correct and especially media doesn't portray always the truth.
This entire Muslim world finds excuses for them, protect them or after every terror attack explains that Islam means peace.
No, that's not true. Look at Saddam. Most of the people agree he was no angle. It doesn't mean that somebody says he's muslim, he will get away with criminal activities!
And didn't Pakistan also help the US in fighting the "war against terrorism"? True terrorism shoudl be stopped, wether it would be from muslims or non-muslims.
The Taliban were unfortunately wrongly accused by western world of terrorism, and the US government got away with attacking tiny Afghanistan and mostly killing innocent inhabitants. But where was solid proove?
Where was the muslim world? What about Palestine? Israel is breaking most of the rules of humanity, still no help from the Muslim world either to the Palestinian muslims there.
And when I talk about Kashmir, very less people here, including Muslims know what's happening there.
Kashmir, Palestine or Chechnya…Quran says, ‘remove them from where they have removed you.’
Pls read history and find out who has remove whom?
What do you mean? Who is removing whom?
You can't just whipe out people living some place for hundreds of years just because they are muslims, all sort of excuses are found to justify the horrible treatment given to muslims in those places.
Dear Sadya, does really Islam tell you to treat Muslims and non-muslins with similar respect and fairness?
Yes, it does. But of course up to a certain limit. Of course there are rules like muslim men marrying only muslim women or women who belong to the people of the book, of course there are certain borders.
But we are supposed to respect every human being equally.
But jsut becasue someone is muslim, it doesn't make him/her a saint.
I personally know many people, who are not muslims and still very good people, many of their deeds are what deeds of muslims should be.
And I'm sorry to say this, but I also know many muslims who unfortunately behave like non-muslims. But why blame Islam for that?
THat's the peoples fault, not the religions.
Should we now for example hate teh Judaism religion, jsut because they have some crazy groups like Zionists for example, which is not really Judaism anyway, but just togive an example. Or should we now hate all the Christians just becuase there were people like David Koresh? Wouldn't it be silly to blame Christianity for that? While it has got nothing to do with Christian religion itself.
Do I read some different Quran?
I have no idea what Quran you have. Maybe you have a translation done by a non-Muslim. Or mabye because you have already certain idea's in your head against Islam, and so are reading what you want to read or expect to read.
If you don't mind, and this is not to critisize you ro something, but just a sincere advice, you better ask things like these to someone well learnt. Who can better give you information. If you really are interested in undertstanding pure Islam.
Some of the idea's you have, I myself used to have, while I am raised as a Muslim, but I've never really been taught to understand Islam. Jsut to perform the rites and some little things, not much. Mostly traditional Islam..
I didn't understand either and most of the idea's I had about my own religion (!!!) were from western media, western view, and some of the misconceptions you have about Islam, in fact I myself had them too!
But a lot of it is based on nonsense. I do understand you having those feelings, but best thing is to get information of a reliable source, and objectively read about Islam to understand what it really says.