How can things possibly change in NA-250 now?

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NA-250 might be under the PTI now, but does it mean MQM / PPP / ANP’s Unit and Sector incharges will simply stop operating their extortion and gang violence activity? That somehow seems unlikely.

Will the police be under control of PTI in that area?

What are your realistic, unbiased views people?

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Re: How can things possibly change in NA-250 now?

Imran Khan gets more from overseas Pakistanis than he can ever get from here. Please stay on topic.

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Absolutely!

I'll give my months salary to Imran Khan's cause without a smallest amount of doubt in my heart, because he has earned this trust with hardest work one can possibly imagine.

Can Anwer Pasha donate his month's salary to his leader Zardari?

Now back to topic: I don't know what kind of influence an MNA or 2 MPAs from one constituency may have if they are not in govt.
On the other hand, some sort of compromise is also a part of politics... so who knows?

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I'm not sure what you expect to change in NA-250?!! Its just one constituency which will have MQM/PPP coalition govt.'s intervention all the time. Nothing is gonna change.

Again,there will be more eyes on KPK than anywhere else cuz thats where the real change may come.

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Off-topic posts have been removed. Please keep on-topic as requested by OP.

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So we should talk that how can we make aik naya NA-250
I am not angry on this new ....
Mujhay to tars aata hay

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Would you like it translated, for better comprehension?

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I feel that NA-250 will become a national issue eventually, one that Federal Government will have to address. The outcome is hard to predict, but all parties that claim stake to this constituency will do all they can to retain control over it either on radar, or under it.

The sooner the Police Dept. and Law Enforcement agencies are set aright, the better. So, there is no more bloodshed regardless of political tussles.

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Are you going for making it a new country or new province so it will become an international issue

Nia NA=250 LikeNaya KPK

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I have been thinking about this issue also. How much power/influence does one mandate have in his own constituency if his party does not sit in federal/provincal government?

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No, but if the violence continues and bodies keep dropping then it will become a national issue. Karachi is a very important city, and lifeline of Pakistan for International trade, and a Financial hub. What effects Karachi, effects the whole of Pakistan. And that is why when there's continuous violence in Karachi, then it hurts Pakistan as a whole.

Just as violence anywhere in Pakistan hurts the entire nation. So why shouldn't it become a national issue, if the provincial Government fails to control it?

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Do you really want to know the truth?

Even in 2013 election MQM may win 17 out of 20 NA seats and probably 34 out of 41 PA seats from Karachi (they had 17 out of 20 NA seats in 2008 election too), still police force would not be under MQM, so how can it be under PTI?

Police is provincial matter (not federal matter) and would be under Sindh home minister, not MNA or MPA. Sindh government would be of PPP or 'PPP and MQM'.

As for what could happen, well, just what used to happen in past. It would nice to see how much these MNAs and MPAs would serve their constituencies, what they can do with the help of PTI party workers (many may lose life in process, as happen to PPP, MQM and ANP workers even when they are strong on ground). What I believe, PTI MNAs and MPAs would be trying to keep themselves alive with official security around them and/or armed party men around them (just like other party MNAs and MPAs do ... or risk their life), else we will see Zimni-intekhab.

[Note: Nabil Gabol won Liyari NA seat with around 90000 votes in 2008 on PPP ticket. Sindh interior Minister was from PPP too ... still, Nabil Gabol was unable to move freely in Liyari, as he could have got killed anytime, even though he used to travel with 100s of armed guards. Nabil Gabol is Sardar of Gabol tribe (frontline warriors of Baloch Rind tribe) that has over 300,000 men, mostly armed].

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This is not new . Whole Pakistan is sacrificing lives since decades .
These all products or by products of establishment are killing Pakistanis since decades . Every life is important . Thousand killed in Sindh , Baluchistan and KP .
Your Pakistan is very small , Starts from Peshawar valley and consists capital , Central Punjab and Karachi now .
Our Pakistan is from Chitral to Gawadar , Our every inch is bleeding since decades .

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I'm sorry you feel that way. You may be a victim of divisive politics of Ours vs. Yours.

I believe, My Pakistan is the same as yours. And yours the same as mine. :)

As I said before, if the violence continues and Provincial Government is unable to tackle it, it will become a national issue. I hope it does not become a national issue, so the federal government can deal with other issues such as terrorism, economy, and infrastructure such as Electricity, etc.

Mandate or No Mandate, it behooves all stake holders to treat the city and more importantly the constituencies as they would treat their own home. Keep it peaceful, and clean for the sake of national interest, because every city/town/village that works for peace is directly working for a better Pakistan. Every person that causes violence, in turn commits terrorism albeit at an individual level.

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Ok, but what kind of work can this MNAs do in their constituency? How much power do they actually enjoy?

Well, if Sindh is controlling the police and history will repeate again, then federal government needs to control and stop this non sense. However The question is if they want to do that...

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Are first daughter issue allowed? ;) Ok ok, everyone don't get your panties in a bunch. This was a crude attempt to be altaf bhaaai.

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From what I know … MNAs get fund from federal government and MPAs get fund from provincial government. Well ... at least in theory. Else members from opposition party get very little fund.

A large portion of these funds get into bank account of parliamentarians through commissions (unless they really want to serve). Actually, funds stays in government account, but MNAs and MPAs could approve projects (schools, hospitals, parks, roads, or whatever) in their constituencies from funds allocated to them, and also chose the contractors. They chose contractors who can give them commission. Thus contractors bid for projects at exuberant price and MNAs or MPAs accepts their bids, than get them paid from fund they got, and contractors give them commission.

For instance … Let say particular MNA got Rs 15 million funds from federal government (for the year). He gets a contractor to do certain work. Cost of those works could be Rs 7 to 8 millions (if real bidding get done) but contractor would make Rs 15 millions bid and MNA accepts the bid. Contractor get the work done and pay the MNA around 5 to 6 millions. That means, contractor got 2 to 3 millions extra profit what he could have got (plus, work quality could be lower too, saving contractor another odd millions).

As for policing, that is entirely provincial matter. Federal government could do very little (or nothing) about that. It is also up to province that they ask for rangers or army to help them in law and order (and for that, provinces have to pay armed forces for their services).

In past situation was different, when federal government could have interfered a lot. At present, federal government could suspend provincial government and impose governor rule for couple of weeks, then interfere a little. But that option is not easy, as provincial government could move court and can also revolt.

Actually, after 18[SUP]th[/SUP] amendment, provinces are given lot of autonomy, though less than promised in 1973 constitution of complete autonomy (maybe, in future). Regardless, provinces are today semi-independent states that can even raise many taxes and all internal matters are in their control. Theoretically they can even stop people from moving to their province from other province. Health, education, policing, agriculture, judiciary, and most government departments are provincial matter. Province can even stop export to other province of goods (like gas, electricity, wheat, sugar, etc) and would only export if they think their needs are taken care off, regardless of how badly other provinces are affected.

Well, situation is that, provinces are now very strong entity after 18[SUP]th[/SUP] amendment, but even after late 88 and mid 90s, when BB was Prime Minister of Pakistan and NS was Chief Minister of Punjab, it was difficult for BB to pass through Punjab.

Situation is that, even pay scales of Police, doctors, teachers and other civil servants of one province is different than other province.

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Thanks for a detailed and informativ answer!

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Saleem, is there such a thing as police in Karachi too?

In a city ruled by thugs dont you think police needs armed escorts themselves?

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What I know, When MQM had home ministry (before 2008 election), law and order situation was quite good, not only in Karachi but throughout Sindh.