Now I am genuinely confused. Werent several judging the queer lady? If its ok to judge her, why not ok to be judged? That is why, the consistent approach is live and let live? To each his/her own? Including their interpretation of Religion?
(I know youu had agreed to disagree. So this is rhetorical).
Remember to do downhill for them quads.
Oh definitely. I was calling her out...but not for her inability to follow religion. I was calling her out for trying to pick and choose religion and pass that off as progressive. The OP is doing the former.
I disagree that a more reasoned OP would have elicited more mature responses. Certain viewpoints get the same response here and usually from the same quarters.
You'll notice that the mocking started with bashing desi culture but when the guy flatly denied supporting aspects of the desi culture that he was being portrayed as a supporter of, the track changed to how the OP wasn't sensible enough for our sensible minds.
The crux of his post was that Islamically speaking one should mingle with the opposite gender to the point that it's necessary but limit unnecessary interactions. Some people think that that's too conservative an interpretation of Islam which is totally fine and could be argued without mocking.
What's this fluff about 'live and let live' and 'don't force your way on others?' He doesn't have the power to force it on you so chill out and try to reason with him if you're so inclined or simply let him live in his delusional world. What's with banding together and making fun of people?
Southie brings up an excellent point. If it is okay to mock the queer lady in all views for making Islam suit to her needs, why is it ok for us to change the ruling on un-necessary free mingling of the sexes?
People have already outlined the clownish way in which he posted his opinion. How else would people respond, except with mockery?
Oh definitely. I was calling her out...but not for her inability to follow religion. I was calling her out for trying to pick and choose religion and pass that off as progressive. The OP is doing the former.
Understood. This is a complex issue with no black and white (for me).
As I indicated in that thread, technically you are correct. That in this specific religion there appears to be no room for interpretation. Since the lady has her own interpretation per her conscience, you find fault with that. And call her out on it. Fair enough.
However, your definition of who a progressive is differs from mine. And that is OK. For me, a progressive leads the way in fighting for equality FOR ALL. If the Church says thou shall not have abortion, a progressive supports choice. If the chuch (or old Testament) has unfair laws/passages against homosexuality, a progressive looses said unfair laws/passages.
These progressives can be religious. It is not either or. It doesn't matter to them if the religious establishment dies not consider them Christians. To me they are both Christians and progressives.
Of course some of these progressives may be athiests.
Whatever I stated here, to me, as a liberal secular progressive, applies to ANY religion.
^ We're not talking about rights, and it's not a matter of whether that person is a Muslim. It's a question of whether she's just someone who struggles to follow religion, or whether she's someone who doesn't follow religion but also justifies her behaviour. You're confusing my opinion of her muddling of religion with whether or not I think she should have the freedom to do so.
She's free to live as she wants. I'm free to tell her she's trying to have her cake and eat it too. And all of this has nothing to do with being progressive, which is what her article suggests, and what you're alluding to.
Similarly, OP is right in that mixing is not allowed. Everyone in this thread who's bashing the OP because they disagree is definitely behaving like the queer feminist, **if they disagree that they're breaking the rules. **But most people are mocking the OP because of his tone, not his message. Had he done it in a more diplomatic way, I'm sure the response would have been different.
