How can Imran Khan ask for negotiations with khariji terrorists?

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One of their demands is implementation of “their brand of extremist” shariah.
How does Imran Khan expect to “negotiate” this demand from them?

Secondly, what will Imran Khan do if those “negotiations” with terrorists fail as well?

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well hopefully Imran Khan means to negotiate the demand for extremism out of these terrorists....though extremism is what makes them a terrorist in the first place. Just giving Imran a benefit of doubt. Remember Imran is a proud guy with an accomplished life and when his kind and community are self-destructing he is atleast trying to say/do SOMETHING.

If the negotiations fail nothing more is lost - but may be by some miracle he will be able to convert the extremists into sanity - tall order but who knows? Who'd have thought Mahatma Gandhi can bring down might British rule by non-violent means?

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Mahatma Gandhi and Imran Khan on the same spectrum:D

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The head of the British army believes politicians and military chiefs should talk to members of the Taliban sooner rather than later.

Obama Willing To Talk To Taliban

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Only if Imran Khan says then it is a problem.

When we can have MQM in mainstream politics, why we cannot talk to Taliban? Killings, war and operations result in fertile recruitment ground for terrorists and more violence instead of less.

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Yes Mahatma Gandhi made the all human beings feel better about themselves and is a totally different level than most other human beings including Imran, so I don't mean to bring him down or anything by mentioning him in the same breadth as Imran. I was just using it as an example that miracles can happen.

BTW Mahatma Gandhi wasn't Mahatma always - he had a few devils in his mind too but he worked his way out of them through self-control and sacrifice

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because MQM for all its faults participates in elections, wins seats in the provincial and national parliament. it recognizes the parliament. despite the million things wrong with them which infuriate me as well, they don’t openly say that the Pakistani constitution is nonsense like the Taliban do. despite problems with Jinnahpur, etc, they haven’t established the independent Emirate of Waziristan. MQM doesn’t systematically target and kill the Pak army as an entity like the Taliban do.

Imran is talking out of his behind as usual. now, his biggest argument is that the terrorists attack us because of drone attack. oh really Khansahib? that is totally false. what drones were being fired on Swat? Fazlullah started his terrorist movement independent of the drone attacks. at the time, Imran’s tune was that Fazlullah just wants shariat. oh really? so, tomorrow if I want to see shariat somewhere, I should go start cutting off people’s throats and start executing them in the public square?

Imran is nothing but the mouthpiece of the ISI and the army just like JI and the various assorted right wing nutjobs.

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If Imran is mouthpiece of ISI and the army which is fighting against Taliban, what does that make him?

There is absolutely nothing wrong in saying that Pakistan's unconditional support to USA for the non-sense war-on-terror has resulted in recruitment bonanza for extremists and subsequent violence within Pakistan. If someone in the North gets killed as a result of our commitment to dear Uncle Sam, his brother, cousins, relatives, friends are all willing to take 'revenge' and that is a dream come true for any extremist organisation wanting to recruit.

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just explain one thing to me. why was Imran being an apologist for the terrorists in Swat? what drones attacks were being launched in Swat? when did America attack Swat?

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Again talking to terrorists is a crime....

hehe i should be glad talking on the issue itself has not been looked down upon.

Look people if you want to fight an ideaology you have to talk it through it's not a war like anything we as a nation have faced before.

Hats off to Imran Khan and all those who are taking a positive look at the situation.

Besides Terrorism god forbid is a mental state present in us all.

It is in the mind, like many other things.

If you think you cant talk to terrorists your no better than them becuase both of you would rather talk with guns right?

Furthermore if we have any hope of defeating the terrorists we must strip them of any advantage they hold on us.

Al Qaeda as i can prove is a nihilist organisation, when more people realize that, the organisation will implode like the bombs its so famous for.

We have a real situation here and trust me you wont gain anything by trying to fight it out.

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okay two humble requests:

1) please sort out your grammar. this is not the poetry section. so, write proper prose please.
2) write in paragraphs. these double spaced pseudo intellectual gems you post are a pain to read.

thanks.

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Samb, Were the terrorists ‘occupying’ Swat were locals? Did they not come from the same areas where Pakistan military started operation where we killed indiscriminately? An area where weapons flow like water and an area which supported Pakistani causes throughout our history.

Why is it wrong to ask for trying to remove the root cause of terrorism instead of ad hoc measures? I would support you if USA with all its might was able to root out militancy in Afghanistan through force. What is wrong with:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3250728425531479935#

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Glad to know my words are painfull for you to read... maybe you might take notice of what i'm writing.

And sorry we are all individuals and we all have our own ways you cannot simply dictate to me how i choose to write or even what i choose to convey... i mean not even the Taliban would get anywhere were they to try and dictate things to me in such a manner friend, your losing the arguement please dont try to detract form the subject.

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is this thread based on any recent statement? if so, why is that not included in the first post? :konfused:

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You mean they may become sane after "negotiations" with Imran Khan?
In which case I would ask, is Imran planning to negotiate or do kala jadu?!

You are giving too much benefit of doubt to him.

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Those guys want to talk to fringe elements of Taliban, who joined them for other reasons besides ideology.

Imran on the other hand, even refuses to accept the war against extremism to be Pakistan's own war. He wants ALL operations to stop and start negotiations. But question is, what will happen if those negotiations fail too?
Would Imran then consider this war Pakistan's own?

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What is the "root cause of Talibanic terrorism"?
This terrorism started in Afghanistan long before America and drone attacks. Thanks to Talibanic ISI of that time.

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^ and MQM was in alliance with IJI (ISI brainchild?) at that time. :D No political force in Pakistan raised concerns against Taliban at that time. Everyone was 'for' them.

Did you forget that Pakistan was following American signals at that time as well? Did CIA not support Taliban government in Afghanistan? Taliban were not born 'long before' American interventions in the region. They were produced with American help.

Pakistan's unconditional support for American interests in the region has been the root cause of terrorism here and still is.

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Bang on Kaka! :smash:

The CIA ran thier biggest operation ever in Afghanistan during the Soviet war when they famously supplied stinger missiles to the Jihadis… coincidentally Rambo3 was very close to the truth… the reason why such weaponry was given to the Jihadis was becuase the Russains had the most awesome attack helicopter of the day.

The Mi24 hind was a veritable armoured tank in the sky not even .50 calibre machine guns or light AKAk guns had any effect on it so the Americans had to supply thier puppets with heavy weaponry.

Pakistan was instrumental in the distribution of the goods and the Saudi’s were the prime exporters of mercenary thinking.

For those who think this is just a conspiracy theory let me just say this… Our friends in Langley have several records of the event if you would like to see them thier on wikileaks and if your really desperate feel free to visit the head office of the CIA in Virginia… though you wont get anywhere with that.

The best way to obtain the information is from the CIA’s many rouge agents who have defected, they have a wealth of information. As do the Iranians who now hold those guys like trump cards.

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Is fighting against Talibanic mind-set a "support for American interests in the region", or for Pakistani interests? Remember, I am not asking for YOUR opinion. We are talking about Imran and PTI.

Does PTI think that people blowing up Pakistani schools, mosques, army/police personnel, are our friends not terrorists?

**What will happen if Imran's "dream" of having negotiations with these lunatics fail? **Would he then be willing to have operation against them at that time?

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No political force in Pakistan raised concerns against Taliban at that time. Everyone was 'for' them.
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And today these fanatics are threatening Pakistan's own security. You reap what you sow.
But at least these lunatics have now shown to majority of people (beside people like Imran) that Pakistan at that time made a devastating mistake by supporting the Evil.

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We know where kakaballi/Farisuddin stand for. I don't think they represent Imran and PTI.

I am surprised at the absence of die-hard supporters of Imran. People who are AGAINST Taliban and AGAINST terrorism. Where are they in this thread?

Here is an opportunity for Imran supporters to clear Imran's ambiguous stand about terrorism in Pakistan. Why don't they want to reply here? :)