First of all a person afraid to do wrong doing b’coz of consequences but when that person don’t face any, do more or get involve in it further. I’m not talking about wrong-doing in public but in sole when no one around or atleast person is with one opposite gender. First of all that person afraid to commit wrong-doing because of a unknown “fear” (definition of “fear” may vary due to ones belief) which prevent that person to commit but when wrong doing is done. The person think that nothing happened nor he or she faced any consequences, in fact that he or she enjoyed the experience so he or she repeat wrong-doings which actually good at the moment but whenver the person think that if it is wrong, than why he or she didn’t faced any consequences? What he or she was believing since he or she was born was just a fable? So he or she looks around and see others are doing same thing hiddenly and/or openly but so far nothing happend to them. Furthermore he or she thinks "due to my belief, I actually tightened myself so hardly that I was blindly believing what was told to me since my childhood. What I heard since was it wrong?
I think this is the stage where a person is actually in delusion which weaken his or her belief and he or she don’t wish to believe anymore in his or her belief which were taught since his or her childhood. He or she just want to be a part of this world not the part of life after.
If you understand what I wrote above then plz share how one overcome to the ‘wrong-doing’ with/without experiencing it and keep his or her belief stonger?
Another reason which I think when there is no consequence i.e. punishment.
or when people falsely think that God is not answering their prayers and that He is causing more destruction and calamity in the world.
Alhumdulillah conviction never gets weak ... but taqwa can ... and when it means that none can misguide except Allah (SWT) it means this with respect to conviction - the actual Imaan - is there ... but people can fall weak of their awareness of Allah (SWT) and one of the most effective ways of becoming weak in taqwa ... *is to argue with people *...
I notice when I argue or debate with people and logically I am winning ... but my heart restricts and I lose the freshness and fragrance of faith ...
There is a lot of wisdom in avoiding argumentation ... but this forum forces us into such situations ... Ahmadis, Evolutionists ... post-modern secular Muslims ...
Each to their own ... but I need to learn to stop arguing with them ... Just get my say and no further engagement ... It is a balance I can't yet achieve ...
r u referring 'tawqa' as 'fear of God'? If 'yes' than I think most of our deeds are empty from 'taqwa' so there is no use of it.
Moreover I think two Nafs (1) Ammara and (2) Lawammah are always try to come over on each others. Is the state of locically winning and heartedly losing due to these nafs?
r u referring 'tawqa' as 'fear of God'? If 'yes' than I think most of our deeds are empty from 'taqwa' so there is no use of it.
Moreover I think two Nafs (1) Ammara and (2) Lawammah are always try to come over on each others. Is the state of locically winning and heartedly losing due to these nafs?
Yes taqwa has many meanings - but it is a faculty of belief that taqwa stems from ... It is jsut important to distinguish faith by talking about taqwa separately from imaan ...
*Alhumdulillah conviction never gets weak *... but taqwa can ... and when it means that none can misguide except Allah (SWT) it means this with respect to conviction - the actual Imaan - is there ... but people can fall weak of their awareness of Allah (SWT) and one of the most effective ways of becoming weak in taqwa ... *is to argue with people *...
I notice when I argue or debate with people and logically I am winning ... but my heart restricts and I lose the freshness and fragrance of faith ...
There is a lot of wisdom in avoiding argumentation ... but this forum forces us into such situations ... Ahmadis, Evolutionists ... post-modern secular Muslims ...
Each to their own ... but I need to learn to stop arguing with them ... Just get my say and no further engagement ... It is a balance I can't yet achieve ...
Yes.
Ever heard the story of believer and no-believer?
They argued all night long.
In the morning believer started doubting his beliefs and non-believer started to question his position also.
While one may say arguments of beliefs bring more understanding of the belief, too much argument of basics of beliefs is never helpful.
Short term discussion is alright though.
A very small minority would change his/her belief by arguments and logical discussions.
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It takes personal observations, efforts and struggle to convert or revert. Not by direct arguments or Munaziray.**
Just for curiosity bro, what did you mean by red part?
many of us think this way that he or she did the same exact thing but that person is living a very nice life…first we have to understand that we all are diferent from each other…though we are humans but we all are diferent in one way or the other…we think percieve things differently we put them into action differently our niyaah cant be the same…thus the outcome cant be same as welll…i think we shouldnt compare our lives with any person…except when we have to learn something good and when we want to take ibret from someone’s life…
now since we all are here to be tested…we all are put into different situations and circumstances and now its upto us to that how we deal with them…i was told by one of my friend that if you want to become strong metleb you only want to fear ALlah and expect from Alllah then you should do three things…actually life is not simple we have to keep track of our actions we cant just let it go…else it will show its ASSer …
first is riyazet! that you have to stay positive no matter what happens you have to direct yourself in the right direction(that is to stay positie and say thanks to Allah and expect good from him and if something bad happens do sabr)
second is mujahida…which is to indulge in ibadaat…not only wajibat but also mustahbaat…duas and tasbeehat as much as you can)
and third is mesghol fi nafs…which is to daily think of your good and bad actions that you perform and make promise that you will not do it again…or to think that today i will perform this (good action) and will stay away from (bad action) which will make Allah unhappy…
so ihave learned that you cant earn any status unless you do all this!
see to make us look beautilful in today’s world we do so much cleasning toning scrubbing…facials…manis pedis and what not…to stay beautiful right…
so we cant just have it on a silver plate…and i tried doing this and within few days you just go back to your regular routine…
one way to keep track of everything is to jot down…write every day !
and when you start doing the opposite of all this your belief will start to weaken right..
i hope what i wrote makes sense! may Allah increase our toofeqat!
Is riyazet, mujahida** and mesghol fi nafs are arabic words?
yes these are arabic words...but if you speak urdu you can easily tell what it means riyazet(constant effort or practice) mujahida i am not sure, mesghol fi nafs i think means to stay busy in doing mushadia(analyze?) of your nafs!
If i understand correctly than that the meanings of arabic words. So repeatedly pratice, struggle for betterness, and busy in overcoming to our temptation i could understand :)
If i understand correctly than that the meanings of arabic words. So repeatedly pratice, struggle for betterness, and busy in overcoming to our temptation i could understand :)
yes sounds right!
so this is how belief get weak
"you have been shown provided you see, you have been made to listen provided you listen, and you have been guided if you accept guidance.you have been called loud with examples and warned through items full of warnings.
but we chose not to see not to listen and no to be guided! no wonder why quranic verses say that verily man is in loss!
if we only see, listen and take guidance from Allah's message what a wonderful creature we can turn into....khudhe ko ker bulend itna k her taqdeer se pehle khuda bende se ye pooche beta teri reza kia hai!....but sadly we care more about dunya materialitic stuff than what Allah wants us to become!....everything he has said and provided us is for our own good! every trail that we are put into is so to polish us , to become stronger and better.....then why do we follow this dunya ? why dont we take advantage of the ocean of knowledge that has been given to us! :(
