Honour killings

‘Honour killings’…..Are such killings approved by any religious verdict?

http://womensissues.about.com/cs/honorkillings/a/honorkillings.htm

Thousands of girls and women across the globe (although mostly centered in the Middle East) are murdered by male family members each year in the name of family honor. Honor killings are executed for instances of rape, infidelity, flirting or any other instance perceived as disgracing the family’s honor, and the woman is then killed by a male relative to restore the family’s name in the community. Many women are killed based on suspicions of a family member and are not given the chance to defend themselves. The allegation alone is enough to defile a man’s or family’s honor and is therefore enough to justify the killing of the woman. The men who commit the murder typically go unpunished or receive reduced sentences.

Honor killings have been reported in Bangladesh, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Morocco, Pakistan, Sweden, Turkey, Uganda and the United Kingdom. Honor killings tend to be prevalent in countries with a majority Muslim population, but many Islamic leaders and scholars condemn the practice and deny that it is based on religious doctrine. Honor killing is actually a pre-Islamic, tribal custom stemming from the patriarchal and patrilineal society’s interest in keeping strict control over familial power structures.

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Should have also added women burnet for not bringing enough dovery and not producing sons.

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From what I know, no they are not approved in our religion. You gotta realize there's a lotta bullshiit that Muslims/Pakis do that aren't a part of Islam at all. it's no reason to go around insulting the religion though..

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It is not part of any religion Anjann aunty. Any religion that calls for violence on others is idiotic. God wouldn't prescribe to such things...violence in religion is a manmade concept. read into it as you may.

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yup, its really man-made....:p

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Read any holy book…blood and death will be on every 3rd page. Or may be 2nd page

Your views r honorable, but the fact is fact

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^ it is more an abrahamic virtue....not a universal religous one.

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I disagree…Religous attitude is very distinct around the world. Blaming Abraham won’t solve the issues. It is more an attitude like “I know the truth, others be damned” that is problematic, and this is shared by all established orthodox.

But back to the topic: Honor killing is justified by religion, but it has deep roots in attempts to maintain family order and influence in traditional societies.

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Not in Islam at least, niether by Judaism or Christianity. How did u come to this conclusion?

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What is the punishment for zina?

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^ there is a distinctive difference between honour killings and zina..

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^ and I am not saying there isn't.

What I am saying is that if someone is "sure" that one of his family member has committed "adultery" then he can stoner her to death.....all ordained by shariah.

You can repudiate the above statement with attck on "surity", "adultery", and "who has the right to punish her", but the fact remains the same: "Adultery is punishable by death".

No civilized society allows that kind of punishment for an individual act.

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^ again apples and oranges the justification of an honour killing is rarely religious it is tribal issues of honour..if you have an issue with the zina laws (which would be obvious from your dislike of religion ) thats a separate issue but associating honour killings with a specific religion shows a lack of knowledge of the subject

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It is not a lack of knowledeg. And do not prejudge my dislike of religion. We r talking about perceptions here, not what u or I think Islam is.

If adultery were not a punishable-by-death sentence, there would be less likelihood that honor killing would be justified.

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^ having personally covered several cases of honour killings..I can safely say in NO case do i know of was religion used as a pre text it was always cultural traditions, most relig-political parties have been very sucecssful because they outlawed customs like revenge killings and honour killings.. perceptions wise laws can be misused in any number of cases to justify an act.

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Lost Soul... is the punishment the same for both men and women... for adultery???? if it is ... it doesn't support your argument for honary killing on women....

Secondly,
The way Prophet Mohammad P.B.U.H. treated his daughter... the respect he gave her.... shows how much women are respected in islam... can you quote me any incident of Prophet or ayah in quran that encourage these practices????

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Zakk,
Cultures r not created in space, and then brought to earth. They grow with certain parameters like economics, religion, etc. To say that religion has no bearings on culture, is the most absurd statement of this century (95 years to go, but i am certain)

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Never said, honor killing is all that religion says. ppl pick and choose in religion, dont u know?

What I am saying is very fundamental…if adultery is punsihable crime by death, then ppl feel justfied in killing their female members for supicion of adultery

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Dude,
What world u been living in man…most of such practices are cause of illiteracy… and I don’t think religon preaches illiiteracy… most of the such stories comes from villlages where there are jageer dana system and stuff… and no religon doesn’t have tat much impact as you might try to protray… media has the most.. now days media is the most powerful source..you want to introduce something new..dressing ideology what so ever.. you can spread it faster through media..not religon buddy..wake up and welcome to 21st century! ! ! ! !

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Dude how about answering a simple question.. is the punishment same of guyz and girl???
**incase you didn’t notice the article talks about killing of women by men on issues that involve women… a simple example it quotes is rape.. now if a girl got raped… you think would islam preach to kill the woman..dude that comes from illiteracy not from religon.. go open the book and start from chapter one before you start preaching religon.. no wonder your name is a lost soul… incase you don’t know zina is lot different from rape… **