Honour killings, acid attacks etc, are they *ever* justified?

[M_was_here]

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Is it not a serious issue to you? Come on lady!

Posting questions in a public forum? Not a serious issue.

[Enigmatic]

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This a public forum where people have the liberty of posting questions and just getting opinions. We aren't neighbors, friends or relatives where we have to be so inhibited about asking for opinions or views. People this stuff way too seriously.

Am not blaming you for opening the thread. What you brought to context is shocking esp when the girl's parents are supposedly ok with it. But then comparing such lunatics to your own future kids and others going in gruesome graphic details of how would they deal with them or pondering over being ok with them is very disturbing.

And so is the idea of honor killings, throwing acid etc.

[Enigmatic]

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[M_was_here]

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Am not blaming you for opening the thread. What you brought to context is shocking esp when the girl's parents are supposedly ok with it. But then comparing such lunatics to your own future kids and others going in gruesome graphic details of how would they deal with them or pondering over being ok with them is very disturbing.

And so is the idea of honor killings, throwing acid etc.

Seriously? Okay, just to clarify, I think not a single person in that thread said they'd be okay about it. Also, these are hypothetical kids we're talking about. Anonymously! And the gruesome details? Are you referring to the one poster who went on about hanging her upside down, cutting off her chest and god knows what else? I hope to god you found that more gruesome than the idea of "Tahmeena".

[Deeba1234]

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@M_was_here

Seriously? Okay, just to clarify, I think not a single person in that thread said they’d be okay about it. Also, these are hypothetical kids we’re talking about. Anonymously! And the gruesome details? Are you referring to the one poster who went on about hanging her upside down, cutting off her chest and god knows what else?** I hope to god you found that more gruesome than the idea of “Tahmeena”.
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This is what I can’t get my head around.. Apparently Tahmeena showing her body seems to upset certain ppl **more **

[Enigmatic]

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Seriously? Okay, just to clarify, I think not a single person in that thread said they'd be okay about it. Also, these are hypothetical kids we're talking about. Anonymously! And the gruesome details? Are you referring to the one poster who went on about hanging her upside down, cutting off her chest and god knows what else? I hope to god you found that more gruesome than the idea of "Tahmeena".

The idea of tehmeena and visualising my future daughter like that is a horror story on its own. The other stuff which deeba mentioned is obviously a step ahead.
For me both of these things are unimaginable and would just show what a horribly failed parent I am. Period.

[M_was_here]

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I understand it's shocking and upsetting but more than killing/acid throwing/physical harm? Yeah, dont get it either.

I dont care if the person says it out of anger or whatever. That kind of train of thought is even worse. And what Tahmeena is doing is pretty damn horrible. Perspective, people. Perspective.

[ll_xx_ll]

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*no honor killings are not justified...EVER *

[Ghost14]

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^

DAAAMMMMMMMMMMMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That mofo brought game

[M_was_here]

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@chaibiskut :

Massive respect for you, seriously. And that is exactly what I found disturbing. the fact that I got called out for being “retarded” for starting a thread like that yet the psychos inciting violence were given a hall-pass because apparently that is justified in their deluded and biased train of thought. And the thread was closed down because “by starting a thread like it, I was promoting it”.

You summed it perfectly here:

@chaibiskut

Hareem01, with all due respect** I’d pause and think about the way you’re using your privileges as a “moderator**.” It’s clear you’re struggling with a conflict of interest. Here’s why:

As a woman, you can find Demesne’s “purple nurple” jokes and visuals of a naked female body strapped with explosives going “kaboom” funny, yet I’m the one who needs to be “disciplined” for suggesting this is reprehensible. Nangi patangi women get your goat all right, but throwing acid on them is a non-issue. I’m embarrassed for you, really.

b) You don’t stop there. Instead of staying neutral on this thread, **you’re defending Demesne’s calls to burn, dismember and disfigure women while you roll your eyes and accuse objectors of ‘making a mountain out of a mole hill.’ **What is wrong with this picture? You’re going out of your way to defend her right to repeatedly incite and provoke violence against others, but you want to censure those who question this savagery. You’ve damaged your credibility as a debater, as well as a moderator of a public forum.

@chaibiskut

Consequently censoring my comments but not hers makes it obvious that you’re practicing double standards as a moderator.

Couldn’t agree more, and I think Deeba was also questioning this exact thing.

@Ghost14

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SYdjRVCR0&feature=related

That mofo brought game

My thoughts exactly. fans face at chaibiskut’s epicness

[TT]

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@NomiCA

So is it proven yet that all pakis are retards… yet??

You’re not helping the case.

[NomiCA]

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@Deeba1234

Ignore away.. Shouldn’t you be careful incase you get banned from this section again anyway..

Oh…i am being careful…thanks for the threat though…that coming from you, may be you are on very good terms with the mods to threaten me like that

anyways…i will make an exception to the ignore rule…and reply to this point of yours..

…you see… you can read my mind…and similarly i can read yours too..
i use that standard response as many times as you start threads with that sole purpose…so don’t blame me if i say out loud what you are implying most of the time…

[Southie]

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No idea what is going on here or the history wrt to the previous thread. But chaibiskut, with the couple of posts here, you have not only lapped the nearest competitor, but have increased the distance further in terms of impacts per post. You write well, think through things, and have me speechless.

Nice job. Always enjoy your posts.

I did read the other thread - M_was_here and Deeba also made a lot of sense. Demense's posts were scary- and scarier was his/her fans egging it on.

[Dil_Pakistan]

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to answer the OP's question. I think people who carry out these honor killings are scum. Plain and simple. Look im not uber religious but even i know that no where in the quran is honor killing justified. So therefore this is a cultural phenomenon more than anything and its the culture, not the religion that should be vilified.** Ive got arab friends who were asked "why do you pakis believe in honor killing??"**

Wait wait, did your arab friends ask you why pakis believe in honour killings?

(you have written "were asked" so am bit confused)

But if they asked you, then that is a serious case of Yeh tau lmao hogaya.

[M_was_here]

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It's not just Pakistanis, it happens in India, Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq as well. And not JUST amongst the Muslim community.

[Southie]

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For purpose of simplicity, I will use desi - which can represent south asian community - and is not religion specific.

Let us assume 50% of desi males at some point in their life have seen or tried to get access to porn. Which is worse, a person trying to make a living doing porn, or a person accessing porn. In my book, the latter is worse.

So what are we going to do about the literally millions of desi men who have "sinned". Maybe we need to pull our head out of the sand, and get rid of our double standards.

If it was my daughter, the doors to her home (our residence) will always remain open. Of course, I will try to talk her out of it. But I will never abandon a child - just so my life would be less embarrassing.

I do not see too many people shutting the door on their sons for patronizing places of "ill repute" be it via the medium of internet or in person.

For shame.

[Naabigh]

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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine

[Southie]

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^ Huh?

[Enigmatic]

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In the words of the OP itself posting questions isnt a serious issue. So naturally the opinions and answers of ppl would vary too. None of them actually mean anything other than the posters imagined response to an imagined question. So why is everyone getting so emotional and targeting one certain person.

If on a family friendly forum we can discuss a model who poses almost nude so can we discuss few graphic details of violence. That would be fair wouldnt it.

Am NOT equating both of these together but we know viewer discretion is based on sexuality, nudity, language and violence.

As for chabiskut , I really like your way of posting and got nothing against you, OP or anyone else but please know creating a new thread just to answer/criticise a poster's opinion and getting personal about it IS against forum rules.

[Enigmatic]

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And when we talk about these horror ideas of honor killings, acid disfigurement, practice of wani, kari etc...its clear that these happen in the places where jahiliyat prevails, theres no education, no religious values. More of a diseased mind.

It would be unfair to compare them with all the educated, sound ppl we have here. :)