Honour killings, acid attacks etc, are they *ever* justified?

Re: Honour killings, acid attacks etc, are they ever justified?

Did you all hatch out of eggs or something? Have you NEVER heard someone swear or say angry things that they didnt' mean???

None of you ever heard your parents say, "i'll kill you if you do this!" and you were actually afraid of being killed? Or were all of you perfect little angels who never had a mean word said to them?

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^my point, thank you

Re: Honour killings, acid attacks etc, are they ever justified?

Someone who BELIEVES that such acts are right....will find justifications for it. Their justifications may not be supported by religion...but are "acceptable" within their culture (could even be a microculture), community, or based upon their own personal views.

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Wanker.

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:shikra: Kill the wanker babez..:wink:

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Yeah, ppl do say things in anger but when was the last time you heard 'I would throw acid on my daughter's face'?

For me that would be NEVER..

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Oh get over it. Growing up my mother said she'd burn me alive, throw me on the stove (*chulay'ich po) *whatever....

I'm still here and I never even went near a stove til afteR I got married...so...yeah. W/e.

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Hahahah and the other day there I was with my work mate who is a Northern English man who said that if his 19 year old lass tried to leave the house on Halloween wearing a short skirt he would break her legs.

I am sure he did not mean it like that... though a chap like him could probably bust the legs of a horse no problem... I think in most socieitys men would like to have the power to "lock up the daughter" as Desi people would say.

This is hardly new or surprising. Likewise unless the girls were seriously brain dead or something you would think they would obey thier rightfull parents in this matter... I mean not saying that breaking legs, acid to the face or chopping of noses is a good thing here but you would think the threat of such violence would be enough to stop them right?

Oh well nevermind... I am sure you will all think me a stone aged lunatic but hey... sometimes you gotta be honest and say were it not for a some stone age lunatics you would not be here too so meh its part of life. :D

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When we were younger, my little sister was jumping on my mothers new bed and my mum said that she would break her legs if she didnt stop jumping.

We always jumped on that bed and mom never touched us and like sara516 said, we were never scared that she would really break our legs.

(a few days after she told my sister that she would break her legs, my little sis got hit by a car and she was wounded on one leg and could not walk proper for some time. Ammi cried when that happened, she said that the accident happened because of her mentioning the leg breaking stuff and she cried that she didnt mean what she said. )

On topic, Deeba, you should really stop thinking that most of the desis are uncivilized and don't have a heart/need therapy/are insane and whet not. I assure you, you are not the only one left with some sanity. **This is not a personal attack, **but your posts often indicate how you think about desis in general, and it is a very twisted view. You generalize a lot.

And no, i am not talkingabout the self criticism part.

Re: Honour killings, acid attacks etc, are they ever justified?

hum doesn't creating this thread also shows you are guilty of judging people AND worse making generalizations ?
as a muslim, no i don't approve of people who are in this business and plus who are also muslims, i don't care if they're the nicest person ever, does it make me a backward narrow minded person ? you're free to judge i don't really care

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I don't care if someone disrespected your family, raped your daughter, killed your family member, your kid become a porn star, your daughter married out of the family or for love, SUCH jahil acts ARE NEVER OKAY. PERIOD.

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Is there any need for us to validate that such things are infact bad???? i don't think any normal person believes such things......... but asking it again n again whether murder is alright, rape is alright, torture is alright etc etc............ whats the point?

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Not to nitpick, but I think if you ask ANYBODY, regardless of religion/nationality/ethnicity etc whose child was raped/abused, they would all wish they could do that to the person....

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Ask that poor father whose little daughter has been raped brutally more than once) by a rich basterd and the police isnt willing to lodge a FIR. Would you call that helpless father a jaahil if he decides to take law in his own hands and kills the jerk who raped his little princess??

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But that happens in pakistan only.......right??

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No, i know if some cases in the Netherlands where rapists were killed by close family members of the victims, because they believed the police gave the criminals a soft punishment.

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When something is there in black + white IN THEIR OWN WORDS it's hardly an assumption or generalisation, is it?

And btw I wonder if your logic applies to yourself when you implied that M_was_here was defending Tahmeena's behaviour (even tho her last paragraph in her own words indicated otherwise).. Can't have it both ways..

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As you're using this thread to say this I may as well say I'd expect nothing less from a poster who tends to back Pakistan and its culture blindly - and I'm not the first one who has pointed that out..

A person who says they'd throw acid in the face of their daughter or burn her alive for doing 'daring' pictures is uncivilised and backward imo (a person of ANY race or nationality).. That poster did actually use the word literally which I didn't point out before but whether or not they would actually do it the mentality, attitude and/or intent is still there..

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Give me proof where i defended Pakistan blindly. I want to know too when i did that.

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In case any had missed the original subject and all goes bonkers over highlighted piece of information, thats basically an euphemism for downright pornographic pictures and profession.