Homosexuality in Pakistan

Gay Pakistan - ‘less inhibited than West’

It is all too common to hear examples of the repression of sexuality and oppression of sexual minorities in South Asia.

Open displays of straight and gay sexuality are taboo in Pakistan
But the problem with sweeping generalisations about sexuality, or anything else for that matter, is the exceptions.

I am one such exception - a gay man who grew up in Pakistan, became aware of his sexuality while studying in the US, had most of his early experiences of love and sex there, and yet decided to come back home to Pakistan.

It will surprise many when I say that I actually feel more comfortable about myself while living here than I was in the West.

It was not always so of course. Before my return, I felt quite aggrieved when my straight brother downplayed my apprehensions about being gay in Pakistan.

It really was not a problem, he suggested. How insensitive and naive of him, I thought.

My brother has won the point since though. While I maintain discretion in many respects, I have come out to most of my family, with their loving support.

I have also come out to all my friends, and rarely meet anyone aggressively hostile to gay individuals.

I have lived with a lover independently without anyone raising an eyebrow.

I have attended gay parties more uninhibited than any I have seen in the West.

‘Differently configured’

In fact, I cannot remember a single occasion in almost 10 years that I have felt threatened with regards to my sexuality in Pakistan.

An entirely unrepresentative experience to be sure, as far as the experience of a majority of Pakistanis is concerned.

But there is no representative sample that I can think of.

Pakistan has ‘conservative religious and cultural attitudes’
Sexuality itself is so much more differently configured in Pakistan than in the West - which is where the language of the sexuality debate comes from.

This is especially true in terms of people’s perceptions of their identity and behaviour, in terms of class, with regards to family and religious obligations.

I would not for a moment suggest that it is easy being gay in Pakistan.

Homosexual acts are illegal, and conservative religious and cultural attitudes mean many gay people are afraid to openly acknowledge their sexuality.

They face ostracism by their families if they do. But in a sense the American military’s approach of “don’t ask, don’t tell” is applied throughout this society.

‘Taboo matter’

True, there is a fine line between discretion and suffocating silence. But being straight is not that much easier, and is in fact sometimes more difficult when it comes to physical relationships.

What is perhaps closer to the truth is that overt expression of sexuality itself - both gay and straight - is a taboo matter in Pakistani society.

But whereas heterosexual courting and coupling is all too obvious, gay socialising can take place without attracting as much attention - with brazen abandon in a society where many forms of overt physical and emotional intimacy between members of the same gender are tolerated and even admired.

The opposite holds true for such public expression between members of the opposite sex.

Just as everywhere else, however, things are changing, driven by the exposure to information via technology.

The internet, satellite television and films all combine to give a new generation of gay men and women context to their emotions, a sense of identity, an outlet for expression and perhaps most importantly, the ability to communicate with each other.

No wonder, then, that I met my boyfriend on the internet.

How true is this new story? Exactly how many gays and lesbians are there in Pakistan? India? Afghanistan?
I found this on BBC News.

Go to bbc.com, search “Gay Pakistan”

Cant give you the url address, sorry.

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Don't get me started on that.
I don't want warning points.

Most foreign born pakistanis Are not able to handle the truth of having same sex, In pakistan.
Believe you me.

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No, i am. I know Central and South Asia had a cultivated culture of eunuchs and boy-man love. Most rich Muslims also had a harem of wives and such. The practice being destroyed by the British Empire's campaign of civilizing the "Hindoos".

But i thought the Victorian-British Empire destroyed all "indecency", including this one.

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"Don’t tell, don’t ask” Is hitting the nail on the head.

In Islamic society there is no stigma or shame attached to ones feelings, in Pakistan I can say I find another male attractive and nobody will batter an eyelid, I can tell a boy he is hot and he will take it as a compliment even if feelings are not mutual, I say that here in the West and everyone will call me a fag and treat me as though I have a contagious disease, they will avoid me as though I’m a leper.

Physically having sex with another guy might be considered sinful/immoral/illegal in Islamic countries but even then what people do behind closed doors is nobody else’s business, as long as people are not flaunting their wrong actions (homo-sex or hetero-fornication) in public and damaging the social fabric of society thereby, people will turn a blind eye even if they have their suspicions because what people do in private is between them and God, nobody can accuse someone merely based on suspicion, in Islam a lot of emphasis is placed on respecting other peoples privacy and what they do at home is their problem, even concealing another’s sin and advising them in private instead of telling everyone is considered a virtue.

I think that’s the way to be, human societies need rules and parameters to behave civilly but what they do in private is between them and God, He can punish or forgive.

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It really pisses me off when ignorant Westerners who don’t know the world beyond their beer, hamburgers and CNN make assumptions and generalisation about other societies, maybe it makes them feel more civilised to trash other societies which they don’t and can never understand with their pea sized brains.

Some of those loony’s will have you believe every other person who has homosexual sex in Pak is getting tracked down and executed. More people in Pak get executed for non-religious cultural reasons than anything else…

I think it’s made worse by a few idiots in Pak who are not even homo but for the sake of British or American citizenship/asylum they make false stories up. I personally know Sunni Muslims from Pak who have pretended to be “oppressed minorities” in Pak and applied for foreign asylum, they don’t realise that they’re giving their country, religion and people a bad name for their personal gains.

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Homosexuals arent taking seriously in Pakistan, so no one feels threatened by them...
Westerners cringe at the thought of walking down the street holding hands with another man, which is the norm in Pakistan between good friends... :)

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^ ha ha ha

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Pakistan has its own laws derived mostly from Islam. While there, respect the laws of the country.

Basta!

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Iss dhaagey ke liyey kaafi munaasib hai..

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I don't know if i should be happy or sad.

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I read on a site that its haram being gay or homosexual.... But now im confused. Isnt it haram? SOMEONE ANSWER ME!

TO PAKISTIANIS

Has any1 seen heedjaaras on the road? Are they also kidnappers and thiefs as well? They ask for money as dressing up as women....cough ugly women. Idk if they were practicing homosexuality or something.. it was a funny story when 3 came to our house... hahaha If anyone wants to know wat happened just message me. Im trying to make posts first though :P

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To paraphrase the comedy genius of Quagmire....

"Digidy digidy"

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How old are you? 6?

Hijrra’s are not homosexuals, they are hermaphrodites/intersexuals, they are born neither male nor female and form their own cliques in Paki society, they make a living by singing and dancing at Khitan-'Aqiqah (Muslim Bar-Mitzvah), 'Eids (Muslim Xmas), weddings, carnivals etc.

Not all Hijrra’s are born intersexuals, some of them are also trannsexuals (men who want to be women).

Punjabi: Khusra, Arabic: Khunsa

They are completely different from homosexuals/bisexuals, homos/bis are just men who find other men attractive.

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I read on a site that its haram being gay or homosexual.... But now im confused. Isnt it haram? SOMEONE ANSWER ME!
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Physically having sex with another man is forbidden, but being attracted to one is not because we can't control our feelings.

Having said that what people do behind closed doors is nobody elses bussiness, you can preach but you can't accuse anyone based on suspicion or spy on them because that's forbidden, what ppl do at home behind closed doors is between them and God, it's still a sin but God can forgive or punish.

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Sensible post.

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In Pakistan Homosexuality mostly common in NWFP, Especially Banu, Lucky Marwat and FATA Agencies area.

Male trape the guys by giving them financial and logistic support, most of the cases is of poor guys. Poverty make them to do these things. I read all this in an article so shared it ...

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it prevails more commonly than you may think...i myself had some advances...with offers of " just touching up" .....

I blame the hot climate and good looking men!

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Do we really have to know all of this?

What next? Campaigning for Homo rights in Pak? grrr!

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Id look a bit weirdly at the next to guys walking down the gali holding hands!!!

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Well holding hands, hugging, or even putting your arm over someone's shoulder while walking is a normal friendly practice in Pak and Ind. But it has nothing to do with Homo thing.