I am finding it hard to copy or quote here oh well…here goes
Teacher “Alone” cannot teach young children…every individual has his own set of thoughts and ideas leading to the curiosity to know more explore more gain more(which might not be of their level to understand) but they ask…they have the right to ask and a teacher should have to provide a more broader spectrum to her students instead of just keeping the knowledge to a discrete level…but she has no other choice…I am sure a lot of teachers would agree to this…n then there comes evening tutions and extra hours with school teacher…
There is a set of students who would know everything before even the class lesson has started…some will learn by asking/discussing a few times(specially those.whose parents develop.the Learning habits in their kids at Home like Khattichic.did)…but there are some who need more extra time other than the class lesson(they usually take C grade) not because they are not intelligent but just because they need some more TIME!
A teacher could easily make 20-25 students(6yr olds)sit around for two hours its easier than winding up the class in 30minutes…
I have tried this myself and you will be amazed how easier and enjoyable this is for young children…notby staying silent and make them listen to teacher…but by exposure to the tools that can.be helpful for all great little minds sitting infront of her wanting to know and Learn with joy…
She could turn on the television(related topic) take them out to museum(as someone said earlier) libraries…or just walk around the school…take them to parks beaches(for learning a specific topic)…but Unfortunately this cannot be done on daily basis by each n every teacher at school…for each and every lesson…
Ok I think I should.come back to.HSing and would.not discuss this^ topic anymore…
You are right … but you see home schooling does more than that … I shakes up modern life completely … I like that idea … It demands more from the parents for the children and less from them for work/career … home education is a life style … in it we don’t have to undo the damage of schools … now this is not saying that school’s intent is harmful … but some of the things they do are … like recess/break time …
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Have to ask, why do you think recess/break time are harmful?
Queer quoted… a teacher who sees thousands of kids in his or her career knows a thing or two more than most parents.
Because?
Parents doesnt give much attention to their kids who do not know a thing or two more than their teachers…
Just saying its not Just the Teachers responsibility…parents should play a major role at home after school to develop Learning not just taking good grades through textbook learning…
(Added these few lines just so that no one would start thinking that teacher should not do anything at all but parents in real schooling)
It was during those times that I heard cursory words used in their most colourful ways, and learnt them and used them myself. It was in those times that fights would break out and in those times that the opposite sex would be somewhat of keen interest, it would be in those times that children would show off their wares and compete for worldly items … hand held games, watches, etc … It was in those times that bullying of children was observed the most, drug taking or smoking, behind the bike shed activities … Actually I can’t think why it was harmful … It might not have been an obvious point that I was making …
But as a parent, isn’t it our duty to also teach them how to deal with things that may be new and dark? Isn’t it better to teach them how to make their choices better than to simply shelter them from everything? Yes a recess is part of school where a child may learn new colorful words or see things that are not appropriate but that is when good parenting kicks in and despite being a little curious, a little seduced and a little challenged, your child walks away because he or she knows better.
Unless my child was being bullied or was truly unhappy, I really wouldn’t want to pluck them out of school because I’m afraid what they may learn from other kids at recess. They may see plenty of things but it is my job as a parent to teach and instill what is appropriate, tolerated and expected and what is not.
Moodie is right. As a parent, I feel like it’s my responsibility to teach my children how to be strong/self reliant and confident in any situation. Be it a school yard bully, colorful language learn and heard or antagonistic co worker. They will come across many situations where they have an unfair boss, client, neighbor etc…these lessons learned in school going years carry through an entire lifetime IMO. I don’t believe in sheltering to that extent. My view is that children will only make a big deal about tough subjects if adults/parents do. My eldest is set to start 6th grade/middle school, and alhamdullilah, he’s managed to get through elementary school without learning to curse, be bullied(or bully anyone) nor get wrapped up in boyfriend/girlfriend drama. Same with my twins. I am fully confident that from here onwards, middle school to high school, my boys have learned the tools neccesary to keep their noses clean and walk the straight line.
Situation #1—homeschooling failed because the family bit off more than they could chew. They purchased curriculum and tools from online resources but the mom was not a teacher. She tried it for 2 years (after having her kids in a Montessori school previously) and when her kids went back to public schools they were so behind on their academic levels, she had a to pay a private tutoring center to catch them up (reading levels and math)
Situation #2—homeschooling is working fabulously because the family is a part of a home schooling co-op,that consists of other children, outside tutors and a “classroom environment”, structured sports leagues and art/music classes. Basically, it’s set up like a traditional school but outside the confines of public school.
This is my thought about home schooling as well. I don’t think I’d want to shelter my kids to the point where they couldn’t be self-reliant anymore. That is not protection - that is creating a handicap in my opinion - one that might never go away. I don’t mean to offend - this is just my opinion on the matter.
Yes, you’re supposed to encourage your child’s learning process as much as possible but home schooling isn’t the only way to do it. Learning doesn’t just come from school…it comes from the environment and relationship you have with your kids as well. Dumping the entire blame on the method of schooling you choose isn’t right. Four of us sisters went to public schools all our lives until high school - then we went private. Throughout our academic careers, my father enjoyed spending an additional two hours in the evening with us before dinner just “studying”. We did homework together, learned something interesting, sometimes when we were done early he’d teach us a funny song or tell us a story or quiz us about things he’d been teaching us.
I also recently met someone who had been home schooled his entire life until college. He said he’d never do it to his kids…main issues he had were adjusting socially and it took him ages to get over that.
I am not against home schooling but I don’t think home schooling deserves more credit than traditional school systems because the involvement in your child’s learning should be there no matter what method you choose.
Well we have plenty of examples before us … Our own childhood and those around us … At young ages children are not yet equipped with discernment skills and it is the age when value structure is forming … Recess time is an informal largely uncontrolled social environment … This is not the right time to expose young children to each other … without supervision.
It it is the worst argument given by some pro-schoolers … That children can know the way of the world … Fine … Throw them outside as well and they will learn lots more … Children who were picked on or those who were doing the bullying and those who watched it all happening … which of these three groups will benefit? None of them … The dynamics between those children will be animalistic and those values will sow themselves into the children … And become reflected in the personalities as adults regardless of what the parents do … Who are largely oblivious to what goes on in their kids schools.
The matter is some people view this as important, some obviously don’t … But to raise the argument that it is good for them is self-delusion.
Children are not left unsupervised at recess. There are teachers walking around or within eye’s reach should something happen and it really is not as scary as you paint it out psyah. Whenever children are around each other, in a park, party, or any social gathering, there might be things they will pick up, or something they will clash over. We all love our kids or kids to be but we cannot keep them in a bubble.
Let’s test our theories … How many books are written against homeschooling, how many books are written against the schooling system of the western world … Look to when most psychological trauma occurs in children to adolescents and whether those children are home educated or schooling going … Find out what reasons are given by suicidal teens and whether those reasons would be there had they been home schooled … Simple data based verification can resolve this matter …
Read in the paper few years back that the aborigines in present day Australia were quite advanced. This was tens.of thousands of years ago. But due to their isolated existence, there was no exchange of ideas. So stagnation. Civilizations where there was significant movement of people from various regions thrived. Cause it was the cross pollination of ideas that was the key.
Psyah my bone of contention does not lie with your choice of schooling.
My problem is with the immature aggression and absolute lack of tolerance you clearly have to show for school yards.
I dont think anyone here has tried to put down home schooling as much as you have put down schools. Insulting even.
You refuse to see any merits in the other system and insist that its the wrong way to educate. Many here say each to their own. Just because you are choosing to do it doesnt make it the right way. To be honest, based on your opinions, id probably opt for going totally opposite to you.
I don’t understand why you are turning this into homeschooling vs. School systems. Like MJ said, you are so bent on proving anyone wrong who simply doesn’t agree with you. I NEVER said homeschooling was not a good option but I guess my awful education from a regular old schooling system has made me awfully tolerant of another’s opinions and to be able to see two sides of an argument and quietly hold onto my own view without feeling the need to put down the other.
It REALLY pisses me off when people make such simple connections between things like suicide and school. Suicide is far more complex than you will EVER know and you should pray it stays that way in your own personal life. I’ve lived the consequences of suicide first hand and I can assure you, if a person chooses to take their own life there is MUCH, MUCH more to the story and to their mindset than being teased on the playground. Yes, there have been a few cases where the teasing has been A factor but it is NEVER the ONLY factor. A homeschooled child determined to take their own life is just as likely as one sent to a conventional school because there is so much more to the story- mental illness, family life, the child’s own personality, other stresses. Two or three high-profile news stories do not constitute the whole truth nor do they rarely cover all of the facts. As an adult, you should know better. And since you are so determined to bring this point up, I would like to see you bring up examples of this “simple data verification.”
Psyah…how do.your kids react/communicate with other?(after 7years of homeschooling)
e.g if.some fellows/friends say something harsh to them or.bullying…
What are the other ways of communicating them to other people/children (which have worked for you and which ways have not)so far?
Do you think homeschooling would be a.success in.any part of.the.world?or is it working only in.USand.UK?whats your opinion?
Muzna…what do you think was the.reason.those homeschool kids were lacking behind?are their parents not educated?have not.given.much attention?or they are not.social?etc
oh well…here goes