Hockey - 25th Men’s Champions Trophy

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*Originally posted by elahi: *
Some1 saab
It seems your national self esteem is completely predicated on competition wiht a nation 1/10th your size population wise,,, ahhahahah
how utterly pathetic. This would be akin to the US defeating Canada in basketball or football and then the entire country celebrating, absolutely unthinkable,, or is it not true?
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This must be the most illogical, irrational and nonsensical logic/analogy I have heard on Gupshup(and I have heard quite a few).
Its gratifying to note that some of my Pakistani friends here also see it the same way.

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*Originally posted by sherrybaba: *
udher bungali babous ko nahee hara pa rahay hein aur idher india hamari pitayee kar raha hey..hamari to ley li gayee..
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I couldn't have summed it better myself :). On second thoughts, I think all is not lost in this match against BD. I think Pak can still win. What is interesting though, is Pak is making heavy weather of a team like BD.

Congratulations to India…

…on a well deserved victory. The underdogs did the unthinkable…:k:

looks as if its going to be Indo - Pak play off for the bronze Aus leading Arg by 5-1...

Ind v Pak for bronze (tomorrow) as Aus defeated Arg by 8-3.

Hope tis time Pakistan takes the revenge of the loss yesterday :)

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*Originally posted by saby: *
Hope tis time Pakistan takes the revenge of the loss yesterday :)
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Knowing Pakistan they will let them win again tomorrow.

Funny thing is Ehsan Bhai I too feel that Indians will choke trow!!! Lets see who wins the battle of chokers :)

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*Originally posted by oursoulsatpeace: *
Funny thing is Ehsan Bhai I too feel that Indians will choke trow!!! Lets see who wins the battle of chokers :)
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So long as it is a good game.

FINAL SCORE - Australia(8) vs Argentina(3)

Did anyone see that coming? Man, the Aussies had a tough and solid defence today. They never let Argentina to play freely. Though, there were a lot of penetration from the Argentinians side, grabbed couple of penalty corners but some of them were wasted.

Aussies were in control of the game. First they led the game by 2 goals to none. After that, they kept the possession of the ball in their court among the full-backs. The pressure was on Argentina. They tried everything possible to break the ice but just couldn't do it. When the pace of the game became slow, Aussies charged up, couterattacks and beautiful passes came one after the another and the reason why Aussies scored 6 goals in the 2nd half is they never relaxed.

With this win, Aussies will play for Gold Medal against the Netherlands and Pakistan and India will meet again for the Bronze Medal. Oh Boyyyyyy........here we go again...........Emotions runs high......Must Win Or Die........

Players who scored for Australia

  • Michael McCann (FG 11th minute)

  • Craig Victory (FG 27th minute)

  • Grant Schubert (FG 38th minute)

  • Michael McCann (PC 52nd minute)

  • Troy Elder (PS 54th minute)

  • Grant Schubert (FG 58th minute)

  • Robert Hammond (FG 59th minute)

  • Tristram Woodhouse (FG 62nd minute)

Players who scored for Argentina

  • Jorge Lombi (PC 44th minute)

  • Carlos Retegui (PC 57th minute)

  • Jorge Lombi (PC 69th minute)


  • Next Match: Holland vs Germany

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*Originally posted by ehsan: *

Knowing Pakistan they will let them win again tomorrow.
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yeah thats my gut reaction too, pakistan has thrown away wins in this tourney , lets hope for the best.

When will PAk and India meet again ?

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*Originally posted by hello143: *
When will PAk and India meet again ?
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Tomorrow.

All the positions will be decided tomorrow.

FINAL SCORE - Holland(6) vs Germany(0)

As expected, the unbeaten Netherlands thrashed Germany. This is the only game of the tournament where the opposition side could not score a single damn goal. sigh the great team of Germany faced such humiliation. Their Coach is guilty.

The Netherlands are in the greatest form ever and will defend their Champions Trophy title against the Aussies. Germany will play for 5th/6th position against Argentina. Whoever lost it, you won't see that team coming back in the '04 Champions Trophy tournament. I think that's how the policy of Champions Trophy goes. Last year South Korea came in 6th position and they aren't in this year's tournament.

Players who scored for Holland

  • Bram Lomans (PC 20th minute)

  • Karel Klaver (FG 24th minute)

  • Bram Lomans (PC 28th minute)

  • Teun de Nooijer (FG 43rd minute)

  • Teun de Nooijer (FG 67th minute)

  • Floris Evers (FG 69th minute)

UPDATE - Champions Trophy Points Table




Rank              P   W   D   L   F   A   Dif   Pts

1      NED        5   4   1   0   23  11   12    13

2      AUS        5   3   1   1   25  14   9     10

3      PAK        5   2   2   1   21  20   1     8

4      IND        5   2   0   3   16  18  -2     6

5      ARG        5   2   0   3   18  23  -5     6

6      GER        5   0   0   5   6   23  -17    0



Teams ranked by as:

  • Points, then

  • Games Won, then

  • Goal Difference, then

  • Goals For

Final Day of the 25th Men's Champions Trophy

Here's how the day will go on. Note the timings(US)

  • For Fifth Place: Argentina vs Germany. Match will start on 4 am ET & 1 am PT

  • For Bronze Medal: India vs Pakistan. Match will start on 6:30 am ET & 3:30 am PT

  • FINAL - Gold Medal: Australia vs Netherlands: Match will start on 11 am ET & 8 am PT

I thought the top 6 teams of the world cup take part in champions trophy. Actually top 5 and the hosts but normally the hosts are in the top 5 so the 6th team sneaks in. I dont know if they have some kind of point system to rank teams or is it just the world cup standings that carry on until the next world cup or however they do it. Does someone have any information about the ranking system in field hockey???

Ahaaaaaaaa, Lets hope Paksitan wins next time they encounter them .,

" Yeh mera Pakistan Hai , Yeh Tera Pakistan hai, Is par Dil Kurban Dil o Jaan bhi Kurban Hai "

LM last World Cup '02 was held in Malaysia. Pakistan came in 5th position.

Here's the ranking of WC 02:

  1. Germany
  2. Australia
  3. Holland
  4. South Korea
  5. Pakistan
  6. Argentina
  7. England
  8. Malaysia
  9. New Zealand
  10. India
  11. Spain
  12. Japan
  13. South Africa
  14. Belgium
  15. Poland
  16. Cuba

Hockey World Cup procedure is same as of Cricket and Football as it comes 4-year gap. I think to qualify for the Champions Trophy you have to be at least in top 5 position as of World Ranking. I could be wrong as I don't have much knowledge of it, though, I've never heard Pakistan played a match to justified its position to play in major tournaments like most of the World Hockey teams do. South Korea comes in World's top 6 teams in '02 World Cup but they are not in the 25th Men's Champions Trophy. So I guess whoever lose the 5th place match, either could not participate in the next year Champions Trophy or maybe they have to play some pre-match to justified their credibility/position as a team.

Good luck India! i hope we get atleast a bronze.

^^ Look who's here.. talking much better these days.

yar why was my post on the fight deleted???? I guess all of u missed that fight?