HIV

[meherealone]

Re: HIV

My mom is a Doctor in Pakistan .

as your mom in doctor in pakistan , so you know the condition of every hospital in pakistan , i bet your mother herself would have seen more then 10 proper hospitals in life
and she would have seen all the hospitals in her town
but as he is doctor in pakistan , she knows all and respectively you know everything

[PyariCgudia]

Re: HIV

@ashtray

chal chal, ab jhoot na bole. you live in US, eat and sleep in US lekin the first city that came to your mind was a relatively small city of Pakistan. Maan lo, your hypothetical scenario required a dirty, uncultured, uncivilised city, and the first that came to your mind was a city of Pakistan, because of your bias ke Pakistan ki hur cheese kharab hai. Why not Bogota? Ab mujh se kabhi baat na kerna

Ok, Bogota then.

[Seminole]

Re: HIV

I work with HIV/AIDS patients in the states. I'd have to say that when a spouse leaves after finding out their partner is positive falls into one of 2 categories - they either didn't really love them to begin with or they just aren't good enough people to stick around for better or for worse - they abandon that person they love when they need them most. Says something about the character and selfishness of the person.

[hypnotix-2000]

Re: HIV

I work with HIV/AIDS patients in the states. I'd have to say that when a spouse leaves after finding out their partner is positive falls into one of 2 categories - they either didn't really love them to begin with or they just aren't good enough people to stick around for better or for worse - they abandon that person they love when they need them most. Says something about the character and selfishness of the person.

Very true, however the discussion is more geared to parental pressure for having children (or else they will get the guy another wife - I've seen this happen frequently btw) and fear of disclosure and the resulting "humiliation" for the parents... you see, our society really cares more about "what people are going to say"... peer pressure, norms and tradition, once again.

[RoCKiSTaN]

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HIV was never an issue back in the old days (i think) so you should just go with the flow and do what GOD commandeth us all to do. Fruitfully multiply and don't worry because GOD will protect you. I wouldn't even think about that being a problem personally.

[Mirch]

Re: HIV

what ever

but i thank god , that islam is not a thesis report it is a religion but unfortunately people think of islam as thesis, and keep dreaming about different scenarios and try to implement islam on that scenario

Should we not be ready with an answer for a real life situation by hypothesizing ? Quran itself presents what if questions and ask you to think. So why not ponder on real life. If you do ijtehad when the situation is there then it can be a hastity ijtehad and posibly a wrong one but if you do ijtehad in advance then it will be very detailed and to the point and most probably the right one.
This is a quicly changing world , the situation which is hypothetical today can be a reality tomorrow why not prepare yourself for tomorrow's reality today ? If we say that Islam is a real religion for real poeple with real problem then we should be prepared with real answers for tomorrows issues.
HIV is a reality now a days in Muslim societies all over the world. Do you remember recently there was a real life situation and question about Malysian astronaut as to at what times and in which direction will he pray Namaz ? Go figure . The ministry of science was ready with the answer they had already consulted their ulemas.

What about this question should a pigs heart be transplanted to humans ? What about this possibility that very soon genetic engineers will be able to grow human body parts in or on pigs will it be halal or haram to use them to save the life of a Muslim ? Are we ready for the answers.
We the Muslims have a big problem and it is too much tawakkal a lul lah. Allah is there to guide you but you have to go out and seek his guidance.

Innovation and inventions start with hypothetical questions. IVF is too expensive in Pakistan because we did not invent it we have to buy this technology from others that is why it is expensive for us. If had started thinking about solving the problems of childless couples 50 years ago instead of associating it to the will of Allah we would have invented that technology and it would have been so cheap for us.

Now back to the answers to the hypothetical questions. It was will of Allah that this guy got infected with HIV, because, if it was not this guy's doing then it certainly was will of Allah( Allah key marzi) . But it cannot be will of Allah that the wife get infected and give birth to a HIV infected child that is why he gave brains to some people who have invented technologies to prevent the woman from getting infected. Allah gave brain to the woman to think about getting khula and go marry someone else who is not infected. If this man wants and needs the love and care of this woman then Allah gave him brain to deal with the situation in a way that the womand does not get stigmatized due to his illness. He should be open about it and talk to his parents. Allah gave the parents the brains to think and hide the real reason as to why their daughter in law is not getting pregnant .They can tell everyone that the husband, the daughter in law , the doctors are all trying their level best to give us a grand child .Now it is upto Allah when he will reward us with a grand child. If Allah wants our son to remain childless then a second marriage will not help either. Nobody has to go out and announce that their son is HIV positive and their daughte in law is not if the whole family wants to keep it a secret then how the word will get out ?

[phuljhari]

Re: HIV

Wow- good effort to bring Islam to 21'st century.