History of Raga and Sangeet

There are many Raga forming part of classic as well as latest pop music. In Indian sub-continent music / sangeet has been part of society since centuries. Th dancing girl of Moen jo Daro proves that music was prevalent at that time. Afterwards, almost all the rulers of the region has Darbari gavayye (singers). Famous musician and singer Taan Sen was one of the nau-ratan of Akbar. Music remained part of almost all the religions of the region, be it Bhajans of Hindus or Qawwali of Muslims, music and raga formed part of religious ceremonies.

So what is the origin of Music in sub-continent?

How the ragas like Darbari, Pahadi, etc came into being?

Is it true that singing Malhar (Sarang) and Deepak ragas lead to raining and starting fire?

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Bhervi, Darbari, Aiman ki mushkil (watch from starting to 3:20)

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It is said that Indian music is so ancient that the story of its conception cannot be traced. The ancient Puraanaas, the religious books of the Hindu civilization, and the accounts and references in them, show that a close relationship existed between religion and music already by 1000 B.C.E. Hence, in order to trace back the roots of this ancient art, one may make use of these books and stories. The musical instruments held by different gods and goddessesfor example, Saaraswati holding a Veenaa (a string instrument similar to the present day Sitar), sage Naarada holding a Naarada Veena, Shankar holding a* Damaru* drum, and Vishnu holding a conch shell show that there has been an artistic awareness of music in India since the dawn of civilization.
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Krishna and his Bansuri (flute) also show the importance of music is Hindustani culture and religion.**

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Music come in Indian subcontinent as Vedic matras were sung in a specific way, Secondly music was/is taken as discipline hence saraswati, goddess of knowledge holds veena. Shiva’s Damru ringing is sign of destruction and Conch blowing generally meant declaration etc. There are various form of classical music, Hindustani and carnatic etc.

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So Carnatic (Karnatic) and Hindustani are different? How the current Raga and Raginis (like Bherwi, Darbari, Pahari) came into being? I read that Ameer Khusro invented / developed many Raga and Ragnis? Were there system of Raga and Raginis before Muslims? Any vedic literature refer to Raga and Raginis?

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Karnatic and Hindustani are different type and then there are various gharanas like gwalior, ajmer, lucknow etc with their own styles, Caranatic is south indian music generally sung in telgu, with various dance forms like Bharatnatyam, Kuchipudi, mohiniattam etc. Vedic literature deals with philosophy only. My knowledge is very little in this field:)

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What do you know or whats your opinion about powers of Malhar and Deepak Raag.

(Tan sen singing Deepak Raag 15:00 onwards)

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It is legend that he inflamed every part of Mughal court and even requested Emperor Akbar not to insist of Deep Raag. The other good part of our music culture is that they still follow Guru-Shishya parmapara, as soon as the name of teacher is mentioned likes of Rahat Fatheh Ali Khan, Lata Mangeshkar etc start holding their ears:).

Mantras are chanted not sung, I assume singing is way different from chanting.

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And the guru dakhshana is also a strong tradition. Remember Salman Khan leaving Ash in HDDS. :hehe:

I also think that singing and chanting matras is different, but Ekta Kapoor always tries to make good and catchy tunes of mantars. I myself at a time remembered (or made to remember) half of the gayatri mantri. :smiley:

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pundit muqawee :omg:

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Shrimati barbie stop laughing and contribute something, before I ask your guru (Devi ji - DA) to take a gru dakhshna from you. :slight_smile:

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I m ignorant of ragas but i m fan of music which is sweet to ears…

as The kaur is here you should ask her about difference of opinion between Tansen and his son…

I read that his son was more into folk music which was more popular among masses…while tansen was master of classical music.:slight_smile:

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Gr8 point.. now after rebellious Harilal and Dina Jinah, we will be able to put our hands on Tan Sen’s son. Here is the story of Deepak Rag and Tan Sen and his daughter singing Malhar. In PTV play Tan Sen by Haseena Moin, it was a character of Tan Sen’s lover Tani who cured Tansen when he got sick after singing Deepak Raag.

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Bro i visited fatehpur but no one told me about tansen episode…:frowning:

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Fikar not. Sanjay Leela Bhansali planned to make a movie on Tan sen, who will show you what you missed. :slight_smile:

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It is very tough tradition indeed, First Gurus will teach and then ask anything in Dakshina. Even in vedic times they asked random thing, Pandits know too much.

though there were nine Navratna, no one reached close to Akbar like pandit birbal, various “Kissa” are famous in Hindustani area and he was pretty blunt and Akbar liked him so much that after his death in siege of kabul, akbar fell ill and couldn’t recover completely till his death six year later.

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:eek: in blue or green shade…:smiley:

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Yes I remember reading stories of Akbar-Beerbal. There was a Door Darshan series on them too. Beerbal and one of other Nau-ratan (probably Mulla do piyaza) also shared rivalry.

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:naraz: He know how to play with colors. Don’t miss his HDDS & Dewdaas.

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what about sanwariya…:cb: