His name is Khan, and he is not a terrorist

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Its overseas Pakistani that are giving him money. They always have. Its not american state money. I am sure you are knowledgable enough to differentiate between the two.

Great respect for Najam sethi? why? :D Yes he is a good journalist but he is known to distort facts while presenting his chirya thing. Case in refernce, watch his program on PTI economic policy which was a fabrication of what was presented by Asad Umar. Add to the fact that his chirya has been surprisingly less frequent since MR case came to the fore ;)

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I once had some respect for Najam as well but he has been quite dodgy over the last few years. In case you are not aware, Talat Hussain is THE most credible journalist in Pakistan currently and he has exposed Najam and his chirya a few times. Najam's rumours have no truth, if there were any other issues then why was Imran allowed to continue his donation collecting trip?
As for his donations, i dont know what is bothering you about them since Pakistanis living in US are more than happy to give millions of Dollars to him that they have legally earned? Do these donations have anything to do with US government? Most of the donations that Imran collects go to help poor Pakistanis, millions of overseas Pakistanis trusted Imran rather than government when they donated for eaqrthquake or floods which proves his credibility.

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The "American money" he talks about is the aid given to Pakistan for its services in WoT. We lose much more than we get.

Its amazing how closely IK is scrutinized vis-a-vis his peers. Even the nature of his visa is in question now. Keep it up.

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American money is american money. Be it from natives or former pakistani americans. And who is to tell who is donating. we all know how donations to political parties work in usa. He is taking money from americans, and america has leverage on him. they can cut his funding by baning him, same thig usa is doing with pakistan. so, now you see how american money dictates . You would be naive to velieve that he is getting chanda from his sampathaziers.
No other political parties from any other country collect money from usa and still talk about refusing american money. Where is that ghairat he was talking about. no indian party collects money from usa.

Also, a lot of money pakistan gets comes because of america but is not american state money, like money different organizations loan to pakistan. so hate the dollar altogether if you really want to be fair.

Najam may be hated by some people, but the fact is he well respected by intellengia of pakistan and world over.

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He will keep on getting money from Pakistanis (within the country or outside).

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^ Najam Sethi comment seems fair. Other comments don't make any sense at all.

IK specifically talks about not receiving aid money from USA for WoT. I do not know what's wrong with that? It is not 'American money'. It is paid as 'remuneration' for participating in WoT. You are touching boundaries of conspiracy theories here claiming Americans would dictate him if he gets funds from there. He has been raising funds for his political and social projects for many years now and no one ever objected.

I am sure if USA bans his entry into the USA, he will receive even more funds from Pakistani expats. There must be hundreds of thousands of Americans who oppose American foreign policy. Should they be banned and expelled from USA?

If he is receiving funds from Pakistani-Americans, nothing wrong with that either. Do you know how other political parties in Pakistan are 'financed'? Certainly not on chanda.

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These comments illustrate just how ill-informed you are.
If you are unable to distinguish the private donations that he collects from ex-pats from the "conditional aid" that the US government doles out to Pakistan then I'm sorry you simply cannot carry any weight or credibility in this discussion.

As far as "who is to tell who is donating".....then I can testify. I have personally supervised numerous five and six figure donations from private individuals that believe in IK's work, be it SKH, Namal or PTI.

And do you really know how donations to political parties work in the USA? Do enlighten us......how do they work for political parties that are not based/registered in the USA........?

If he was taking "aid" from the US government then I would agree that America would have the ability to gain leverage on him. But we are talking about private donations, not government aid.

Government funds could dictate......private funds do not.

And you ARE naive to believe that he is not.

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For those who still dont grasp the concept, let me clear it for you.

His dollars are dependent on America's ashirwad. He knows it very well that americans can cut that lifeline anytime they want. America lets him collect money from their country, thats how they control different people in the world. Bribery (extreme word for this case) doesnt have to be direct. And also, who knows who is giving him money.

America gives some money to pakistan directly, and other money pakistan receives from their permission. They control the route , so they dictate their terms.

Plus, i will say this again, why would he go to america for chanda. why cant he collect from pakistani citizens who he thinks he is fighting for. You call them biggest terrorist and call them your enemy and still you want their money. This kind of thing would never fly in India.

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Are you for real?

Please be clear: American government thinks of IK as a friend or a foe?

When did IK called USA the 'enemy'?

BTW, it is not only USA. He gets donations from Pakistani expats in several countries around Europe and East Asia. Possibly, you are not familiar with the concept of 'capacity to pay'.

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It seems that you're the one that is not clear.
Are you suggesting that "America" could in any way restrict his fund-raising efforts?
Do explain how. Maybe I will better understand where you are coming from with this argument.....

Because there is an abundance of private funds available there.
Because he can.
Simply because. Why shouldn't he?

  1. He is collecting from Pakistani citizens. I hold dual citizenship, Pakistani and Canadian. I believe he is fighting for me.
  2. He does collect from Pakistani citizens living in Pakistan. They contribute a significant amount.

He doesn't want "conditional governmental aid" from the US.
What part of that do you not get?

How does India factor into any of this?
Why are we comparing to India? Did I miss some part of the conversation in which we all agreed that India is a benchmark?

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Repeating my question in case you missed it kaka_in_usa:

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people in Pakistan give him zakat, donations and animal hides. I believe the biggest contribution to his causes comes from pakistan itself. Why do people give charity to him? Because he has credibility and he has shown tangible results in the form of Imran khan foundation, shaukat khanum hospital and namal university. As far as US is concerned, why do you think the Americans will ban his donations? Is he anti America or against their foreign policy? Is it a sin to tell them that their policies are spreading anti Americanism in the world?

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Why don't Indian (non-muslim) posters like IK?

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^ maybe as he wants strong and independent Pakistan ;) as compared to a pliant one that his rivals would prefer.

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Gulf Times ? Qatar?s top-selling English daily newspaper - Pakistan/Afghanistan
The chairman of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf Imran Khan reached Los Angeles yesterday to complete a four-city tour to collect funds for his party, three days after he was offloaded and interrogated by US immigration officials in Canada.
Khan has already held three fundraisers in New York, Seattle and San Francisco, collecting more than $600,000 for his election campaign. He expects to raise another $200,000 in Los Angeles before flying out to Dubai.
On Friday, Khan boarded an American Airlines plane from Toronto to New York to speak at a fundraising dinner in Long Island but was offloaded and interrogated for an hour

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and your point is?

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The point is that another 800000 dollars saved from zardaris slimy hands. :)

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And the Thug did that .

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chalo at least now they will be put to osme good use. Unlike tax payers' money which is used for corruption, vote purchasing and nepotism and that too without peoples' consent

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What is with people's tid peer over IK's chanda money? Buhat takleef hoti hai k people hand over so much of their OWN money to him? Do you guys even realise how many lives have been saved by the donations, how many ghareeb kids are getting UK standard education for free because of those donations? Focus on making him out to be a terrorist all ye like but don't drag his fundraising activities and charity work into the dirty politics. This is something even some of the PTI opponents here on GS agreed with when PMLN attacked Shaukat Khanum Memorial Hospital in an effort to defame IK. Fazooliyat.