Hindus feel the heat in Pakistan

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So do other writers who actually live in Pakistan

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I have read columns of 5-6 others and found his work most impressive.
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"Impressive" is a far cry from "unbiased" and "reporting the truth".

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That's why 'discernment' should be applied. *
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You can read the stuff written by Ayaz Amir and Javed Naqvi..the cry babies of Dawn. *
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There are some who make a living by writing negative stuff about religions and they fall in that slot.

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Because they criticise India?

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No, they criticise everything that's non-muslim but often get a bang back from readers.

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Ayaz Amir critices everything including the Mullahs (or HolyFathers as he calls them), the generals (One of his memorable quotes is that the best soldiers and worst generals come from Chakwal) and the government and even himself (as back in the early days when he hosted a talk show). Jawed Naqvi reports on India usually. This still doesen't address how Irfan Hussein is more truthful or objective.

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Dhimmies will have to feel the heat …any doubts??:hehe:

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hahaha, read the hindus feel the article on yahoo, last week or week before, thought abt posting it here, i guess sjtoronto beat me to it.

now, ive got christian friends in pakistan, POOR AND RICH,

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^Aagaye Singh itnay dino baad.

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and have never ever felt ill treated by muslims in any sort of way, nor do they or their families know of any christians being ill treated.

" 5 hindu traders killed in 3 years"

ok now, number 1, traders mean they are wealthy
and number 2, 5 killed in 3 years is laughable according to pakistan standards.

u know when i opened the article i was expecting something like 300 hindu families slaughtered or 500 hindus "BURNED ALIVE" or something along those lines, but no, just 5 rich guys killed in last 3 years, because they were RICH AND NOT BECOZ THEY WERE HINDU, we dont BURN PEOPLE ALIVE becoz we dont like their religion, unlike our neighbors

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aagaye singh? u retarded?

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…you could notice that i came after a long time??:D…:hehe:

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was this to me??......if it is for me, i dont know.

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this is news to me…if it is true.

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Friend, you dig up into the internet, contact your government authorities and archive depertments and find out the truth.
I do not mean to waste my time in useless efforts to educate you, when after producing some informative websites against your so-called cultured society you would outright reject all knowledge as a bogus propaganda.

And in East Pakistan the Hindu population was arround 26% in 1947-50 and it has come down to much lower than your information re 16%.

I wonder what reasons compel non-Muslims to look for other alternatives wherever Muslims are in a majority.

Again, if you can reveal us your experience against minorities?

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http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/newsviewsdetails.php?newsid=437

Many Hindus are leaving Pakistan, Musharraf is doing nothing to right minorities situation. By AMIR MIR

Human rights activists are perturbed by the erosion of minority rights, particularly the alarming frequency with which cases of forcible conversion of Hindu girls are surfacing. Ansar Buney, chairman of the Ansar Buney Welfare Trust, is dismayed: “It’s heart-rending to see forced conversion of Hindus to Islam, since the Pakistan that Jinnah had envisioned granted absolute religious freedom to the minorities.” He then asks, “Have you ever heard of an Indian Muslim girl being forced to embrace Hinduism?”

I.A. Rehman, director of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, links the erosion of minority rights to the process of Islamisation that the military regime, under President Zia-ul-Haq, initiated in the eighties.
“Cultural marginalisation and religious persecution have resulted in many Hindus leaving Pakistan.”

Pakistan was declared an Islamic republic, its social and political life was influenced by the Islamist agenda; the Hindus have had fewer privileges and rights since then. “Apparently, cultural marginalisation, discrimination, economic hardships and religious persecution
have resulted in many Hindus leaving Pakistan, especially those in Sindh. The Musharraf-led government needs to stop the continued social oppression of the religious minorities here,” Rehman told Outlook.
Aurat Foundation’s Nuzzhat Shirin too blames Islamic fanaticism for the ordeal of Hindus. “It’s Muslims winning by intimidation. It’s Muslims overcoming a culture by threatening it, by abducting young girls so that an entire community moves out or succumbs to the Muslim murderers,” she says. Shirin, however, says the crime against Hindu girls should also be seen from the perspective of gender discrimination rampant in Pakistan.

The foundation’s figures show that on average 10 women are killed daily countrywide in honour crimes. "The ratio is higher in the northern tribal areas, with cultural affinity to Afghan tribal practices. Not only that, on average, two women are raped every hour in Pakistan. During 2005, close to 600 women committed suicide across Pakistan.

Rehman links the erosion of minority rights to the process of Islamisation of the military in the eighties.
This is just one indicator of the depression characterising the lives of women," she points out.
Human rights activist Hina Jillani says Hindus and Christians in Pakistan are looked down upon. “That is why they have to take up inferior jobs; their chances of rising in any field is low,” she told Outlook. Though a few Hindus have taken advantage of secular institutions and sports to rise to positions of prominence, Jillani feels the system is loaded heavily against them. She cites the example of Pakistani cricketer Yousaf Youhana who was Christian. She insists he converted to Islam and became Mohammad Yousuf because otherwise he would have no chance becoming Pakistan’s cricket captain.

Jillani feels concrete steps should be taken to allay the fears of Hindus. She suggests the reconstruction of temples that were destroyed in Sindh and Punjab in 1992. “General Musharraf, who claims to be the only liberal and secular leader of the country, has taken no steps to rebuild these temples, thereby showing his government too is least concerned about the rights and security of the minorities in Pakistan.”

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Folks
I have worked in Karachi and have had multiple Christians and Hindus as my co-workers. My first administrator was a Hindu and a gem of a person. Our biggest whole saler in Sind was also a Hindu who did multi-million dollars of business with us. I personally hired many Hindus for jobs in interior Sind just for the fact that they were the most qualified of the people I interviewed.
So the point that I am making is that minorities in Pakistan are no better or worse off than minorities in other parts of third world. Let us not compare ourselves with the more developed societies like US, Singapore or even Malaysia.
Comparing the plight of the minorities of Pakistan versus India it is safe to say that we have a much better record than our "secular" neighbor. With the grace of God in the past 60 years there has not been a single incident which is close to the many massacres that have been committed in India. Name and quote one such incident where with the connivance of the government Hindus or Christians were systematically pillaged. Indian history is unfortunately full of such accounts and it continues to happen to this day.
Now talking about the blasphamy laws we also have hudood laws for muslim women which are equally draconian. We cannot talk about one and ignore the other as both were passed at the same time to please the mullahs of Pakistan by Zia. These laws need to be abolished and will be for sure as it is just a matter of time
The problem with Pakistanis is that we are too pessimistic and look at only the bad in Pakistan while ignoring the good. Although we have a lot to improve but compared to India we are still a much more embracing society when it comes to treating minorities.
My sincere wish is that we keep improving as a society and become more open to other religions and ideas. It is the halmark of a progressive nation

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Can you tell me if your minority section can riot against the majority section and what will be the result if they do so.
And our minority Muslim section can riot aganst the majority section quite often. Pick up any record of riots, analyze the datails....

And how come the minority population came down to 2 % from 10% in last 50 years?

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Shyan
Based on the selective quotes from my reply it is obvious to me what mindset you possess. Rather than posing questions to me why don't you try explaining the following to me first:
1. Golden temple
2. Babri mosque
3. Godhran
Please be kind enough to give me stats on hindu versus minority casulties. After you are done with this task go and find a third party article on the systematic massacre of hindus, christians or sikhs in Pakistan in the past 60 years. I challenge you to find me such an article. A systematic massacre of the minorities with the backing of the government in Pakistan. You can include Shias in that as well if you like
After you have furnished the forum with this information then I will answer your juvenile questions
Now go and get that information