Hinduism is mankind's oldest spiritual declaration

Hinduism is mankind’s oldest spiritual declaration

Tapas K. Das

TAPAS K. DAS
Hinduism is unique among the world’s religions. To begin with, it is mankind’s oldest spiritual declaration, the very fountainhead of faith on the planet. It is the only religion, to my knowledge, that is not founded in a single historic event or prophet, but which itself precedes recorded history.
Hinduism has been called the “cradle of spirituality” and “the mother of all religions,” partly because it has influenced virtually every major religion. This is possible because Hinduism looks compassionately on all genuine spiritual effort and knows unmistakably that all souls are evolving toward union with the divine, and all are destined, without exception, to achieve spiritual enlightenment and liberation in this or a future life.

Hinduism is also the world’s only religion that allows scientific experiment with – and questioning of – the existence of God. Unlike any other religion, it does not have a traditional dogma. In fact, the only dogma it has is that it must not have one. It is the only religion that fosters diversity in a true sense. If you have a faith, any faith, you are already a Hindu.

In Hinduism, the divine can be conceived as a feminine form – another uniqueness. While people of some prominent religions are fighting for the superiority of their gods through brute force, in a demonstration of catholicity and respect for diversity, the Hindu seekers declared nearly 8,000 years before Christ: Ekam sat, vipra bahuda bedanti (truth is one, sages call it by various names).

Spoken in mathematical context, the search for ultimate truth was started by the Hindus through a method analogous to the solution of a transcendental equation where unknown cannot express as an explicit function of the known, requiring a trial-and-error solution. Implicit in the approach is the fact that while the solution is unique, the path to the solution is not. A seeker assumes a model, focuses on it as a god, and eventually discovers that it is not God. The seeker then takes the opposite approach, eliminates what is not God, and eventually transcends to the ultimate truth. In seeking ultimate truth from both directions, the Hindus discovered the null, later on called zero.

Hinduism has a great diversity among its many sects. That diversity is itself a strength, showing how broad and encompassing Hinduism is. It does not seek to have all devotees believe exactly alike. In fact, it has no central authority, no single organized institution that could ever proclaim or enforce sameness. There is an immense inner unity, but the real strength and wisdom of Hinduism is its diversity, its variety.

Each sect may be said to be a full religion in its own right, with all the increments of faith, with no necessary part missing. Therefore, each sect works for the individuals within it completely, and each tolerates all the other sects. It does not totally divorce itself from the other sects, denying their beliefs, but simply separates to stress or expound upon a limited area of the vast philosophy, apart from all others, to be understood by the limited faculties of man.

Tapas K. Das, a chemical and environmental engineer at the Department of Ecology, is a member of The Olympian’s Diversity Panel.

Hinduism is mankind’s oldest spiritual declaration

it is repeated several times in the Quran, to not make the same mistakes ur forefathers made......which makes sense to me, they had neither the knowledge, technology, nor logic that we have now so why are there still ppl praying to monkeys? no offence intended in any way...

Interesting, although I disagree with a lot of what this article states.

Half cooked knowledge is the worst companion of human being. You go by waht your books say and what you have been taught by your family/society. But how can you be so sure that what you know is the absolute truth.

Probably you have not met a knowledgable hindu. You talk to some person like this and he/she would make you beleive that all other religions are kid religions. ANd hindusim is the only natural way of life. As it incorporated all the good things *based on experience * of forefathers, not by a single person. And the present evils those show up are amanted from misinterpretation fo thousands of years old books.

And now , we come to your opinion , where you think that only truth is koran and what prophert said was right. You seem to be pretty convinced with that. As over a billion ppl in this world share your view . All your life you have believed in that.

Moral of the story -

Faith is faith and it's so inveterated that you alwasy seem to believ tha what you believe is the only truth. The waht is the solution - I beleive is mutual respect , try to know about other faiths; but dont try to undermine other faiths. If some faith is accepted by a human being , it must have some very good reasons!

Peace!

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it is repeated several times in the Quran, to not make the same mistakes ur forefathers made......which makes sense to me, they had neither the knowledge, technology, nor logic that we have now so why are there still ppl praying to monkeys? no offence intended in any way...
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difrent people are difrent in way praying. Hindus praying to monkey is may be I think you are saying about Jai Hanuman? Hanuman is great Rama Bhakth and very devotion. When Sri Rama and Sita decides and go back to Vaikunth, Rama left Jai Hanuman to watch good for us people here. That is reason ( I also) Hindus pray monkeys ecause Hanuman is there.

All same you know. Muslim prays air looking one place . Nothing may be there but Muslim prayer is not for air...it is for same direction for Makka. becaise Alla is Makka so Muslim look taht same way and pray.

Also same way Christans do crossing with hand. Why they do crossing by hand? because Jesus sacrificing in cross once in Jeruslam. So peopel do cross...only two pices of wood like a + sign but for Jesus Christans they praying not wood + sign but cross. Because holy. (all towns have Holy Cross = cross for Jesus = Holy)

All same. Amar Akbar Anthony all same.

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*Originally posted by yari-EH!: *
it is repeated several times in the Quran, to not make the same mistakes ur forefathers made......which makes sense to me, they had neither the knowledge, technology, nor logic that we have now so why are there still ppl praying to monkeys? no offence intended in any way...
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does koran say kill these kind of worshippers wherver you find them?
if god is powerful he can get rid of them himself why he needs a human to do that?

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does koran say kill these kind of worshippers wherver you find them?
if god is powerful he can get rid of them himself why he needs a human to do that?
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First of all its not koran, its Quran and god is God. I am sure you won't be calling your parents with false lingo or bad words. Give respect to get respect.

Now to your question. Quran does not say to kill these kind of worshippers instead Quran says to guide them to the right path by telling them that there is only one GOD and no one else to worship.

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God is powerful enough to destroy or get rid of people who worship idols or monkeys or fire or what ever. As I said Quran or God doesn't say to kill the worshipers of these things God says to show them the right path. If GOD wanted to get rid of these kinds of people God does not need human, humans are being tested to believe in GOD. Everyone will find out when the time comes. If GOD is testing the humans than whats the point of getting rid of them.

And for your information. GOD does not need human to worship God, God has enough angels to worship God. Humans are only being tested on their beliefs. This is the hard fact of life that one will find out if he/she was wrong or right while surving in this world and after he/she dies everything will open up but than its too late at that point.

for rvikz....

Quran 18:58-59
*But your Lord is Most Forgiving Full of Mercy. If He were to call them (at once) to account for what they have earned then surely He would have hastened their Punishment: but they have their appointed time beyond which they will find no refuge.
Such were the towns We destroyed when they committed iniquities; but We fixed an appointed time for their destruction. *

He gives ppl chance to make ammends....

and u shud not be questioning Allah of His power....
ur own gods r handicapped to the extent that they need humans to create them and then move them around, clean them and put them in place....

Hello The_Indian_teen, what do you mean by ‘knowledgable hindu’. Such phrases are used whenever a religion is questioned for all wrong doings.
Author is copying Islam.

All kind of big talks about Hindu religion is a fake till the cast system exists.

‘Hinduism’ is a very strange word. It appears only sometime by 7th-8th century. It was Brahmanism, Vaishanav, Shaiv or Manu system but not Hinduism.

Do not forget that Buddhism and Jainism was a revolt against the Brahman tyranny.
The last revolt against Brahmin culture was Sikhism. (Diverted very smartly against Muslims.)

Highfy spirituality has no meanings. If one is simple and good with people surrounding and the environment, a parrot or mullah knowledge of a religion is not needed.

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Half cooked knowledge is the worst companion of human being. You go by waht your books say and what you have been taught by your family/society. But how can you be so sure that what you know is the absolute truth?

Who can honestly say that they know the absolute truth?

Perhaps only those that are brought up to believe that their religion is absolutely the truth.

In real life, some people believe their beliefs to be the absolute truth.

Others wonder why it is that the truth of others is the absolute truth and not the same truth they were taught.

What defines truth?

Who is right?

Who is wrong?

My thinking is that it's faith that guides people. That faith is something that is inside everone. Faith is the essence of God whether you are Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Ba'ha, Catholic, or even Agnostic.

Even the Agnostic has faith, in my thinking, because its a belief held.

If one holds to a belief, treasures a belief, in my thinking...the ability to have faith was God's promise.

Thats why when it rains outside, somewhere there is a rainbow.

Again you are trying to do the same thing for which this was an answer. And I bet , you have never debated about hiduism-the way of life with a person who really knows about it. So please do not be prejudiced. I do not claim that I know everything about hinduism. But you are most welcome , if you wanna discuss; PM me and we can talk about it.

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All kind of big talks about Hindu religion is a fake till the cast system exists.

‘Hinduism’ is a very strange word. It appears only sometime by 7th-8th century. It was Brahmanism, Vaishanav, Shaiv or Manu system but not Hinduism.
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You are agin doing the same thing. Remember , this way of life has not originitaed just a few hundred years back. It’s history dates to thousands of years. Ofcourse like other faiths/beliefs/ways of life , it has some flaws and castism being the biggest one. But it doesnt lessen the importance of other great concepts /teachings.

If you wanna talk about shortcomings of other faiths , I can go ahead and enumerate plenty of them. But my faith doesnt allow trying to malign other faiths; rather it teaches to assimilate the good things from everywhere. And I bet your religion does the same. Difference comes, when it comes to interpretation and being open/honest to other people and their faiths.

It amazes me , then why budhha is considered as an incarnation of God in hindu mythology and why all the jains consider them as just a sect inside the hiduism. Though I understand your problem and I do not blame you for it. As most of the things you learnt about hinduism/buddhism/jainism have never been first-hand. But in India we have people from all the faiths of world. And we are never taught to disrespect any other faith. I know equally well about Islaam as I do about hinduism.

Well try to read something about sikhism. Sikhism was an amalgamation of hindusim and Islam, taking most of the good things from both the faiths. And it has nothing to do with your so called brahmanism ( I never understand how people coin such words and use them; try telling some hindu that he follows brahmanism).

Probably you are talking about Khalsa panth , started by Guru Govind Singh Jee. Then agian I would suggest you to read some history about Khalsa panth. It was started to save weaks/poor/downtrodden masses ( both from hindu/muslim communities) from tyranny of Mughal Rulers.
I guess you do not know , but for your information. Till recently it was a customery to make the eldest son a Khalsa , who would protect the family and society. So please get your fact rights , before giving such comments.

yeah agreed :k: See my other posts here. Thats what I say; faith is completely personal and customizable thing. and not even two people can have same set of beliefs in this whole world. Faith is related to how good a person can you make without causing trouble to others and demeaning faiths of others.

Peace !

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Well said :k:

Peace and Love!

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*Originally posted by The_Indian_teen: *
Half cooked knowledge is the worst companion of human being. You go by waht your books say and what you have been taught by your family/society. But how can you be so sure that what you know is the absolute truth?

Who can honestly say that they know the absolute truth?

Perhaps only those that are brought up to believe that their religion is absolutely the truth.

In real life, some people believe their beliefs to be the absolute truth.

Others wonder why it is that the truth of others is the absolute truth and not the same truth they were taught.

What defines truth?

Who is right?

Who is wrong?

My thinking is that it's faith that guides people. That faith is something that is inside everone. Faith is the essence of God whether you are Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Ba'ha, Catholic, or even Agnostic.

Even the Agnostic has faith, in my thinking, because its a belief held.

If one holds to a belief, treasures a belief, in my thinking...the ability to have faith was God's promise.

Thats why when it rains outside, somewhere there is a rainbow.
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:) I couldn't agree with you more!

Indian Teen, what is the difference between yours and a VHP leader’ thinking.

Hinduism (for your satisfaction, I name it that way) may talk big, from Brahma to Brahspati, the whole knowledge is nothing more than hypocrisy when it comes to the cast system.
A topmost Hindu, believer or non-believer and the most forwards, when it comes to find marriage partner for their family members, he goes back to his cast.

Buddha was a system for fraternity and equality, off course non-swallowed by Brahmins. (So far it was not Hinduism).
Masses were getting attracted towards Budhha school and hence, Buddha was declared as an incarnation of Hindu God, but the Buddha school of thought rejected the idea. And for that reason Buddhism does not exist in India. (or very little)
Jainism could stay back, because it agreed to the customs of Brahmanism.

Brahmins has its antipathy to fraternity and equality.
Last revolt for fraternity and equality was Sikhism. The beginners to join were all from low cast.
Militancy in Sikhi takes place by the era of sixth Guru, and not the tenth. Militancy was against the tyranny of landlords, (were upper cast Hindus, and not Muslims) but since the protectors of those upper cast landlords were Muslim rulers, it got diversion against the central rule.
Later, to be a Sikh became a tradition. In Punjab you may find two types of Sikhs…a low cast Sikh, surname is Singh and an upper cast Sikh like Chawla, Kapoor and so on. (You are talking of the second one.)

Thanks for advising me to study!

do you mean to say there is no segreagation in other parts of the world?
why arabs recruit camel racer from pakistan for their low weight?

Mauritania’s victims of the race divide

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Indian Teen, what is the difference between yours and a VHP leader’ thinking.
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thats why I said , follow atleast teahcings of Islam and try to be a little tolerant. Now your comparing me to VHP leaders and tomorrow you would compare me with nazis. why ? Because I am oppposing what you are saying? What should I do in your opinion? Second your thoughts , evn though I know they are wrong for sure and I might help you to see things in new perpective?

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Hinduism (for your satisfaction, I name it that way) may talk big, from Brahma to Brahspati, the whole knowledge is nothing more than hypocrisy when it comes to the cast system.
A topmost Hindu, believer or non-believer and the most forwards, when it comes to find marriage partner for their family members, he goes back to his cast.

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Again you start calling names and that to for a faith of close to a billion followers. And please go through my earlier reply. I said cast sysytem was an evil.And what do you know about present status of caste system in India ??? I would encourage you to try talking to newer generation Indians about the caste system and it's role in their personal affairs. My friend , you would be able to come out of your 19th century knowledge of Indian society.

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Buddha was a system for fraternity and equality, off course non-swallowed by Brahmins. (So far it was not Hinduism).
Masses were getting attracted towards Budhha school and hence, Buddha was declared as an incarnation of Hindu God, but the Buddha school of thought rejected the idea. And for that reason Buddhism does not exist in India. (or very little)
Jainism could stay back, because it agreed to the customs of Brahmanism.

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I do not wanna repeat this again and over again; but you used brahminism again. Could you give me a single plausible reason , how around 6% of total population ( brahmins) can make and control all the rules of a subcontinent like nation.

Then coming to your question about budhhism; For sure it was a boon for contemporary Indian civilization. Which salvaged it from evils of animal slaughter and other forms of voilence. And it was good for overall Indian civilization , though there were conflicts between evil doers and proponents of non-voilence. But as I said earlier, you can not comapre hinduism to other religions ; It was not propounded over night by some person. It's more of a way of life than the popular concept of religion as a strict set of rules.

And the word hinduism stands for way of life that has taken shape with the course of time assimilating the experience of ancestors in form of puranas, upnishdas and vedas and ongoing social changes. It has place for changes ignited by Brahma Samaj ( Raja Ram Mohan Rai ), Arya Samaj (Swami Dayanand Saraswati) or for that matter all the sufi saints like Kabir, Rahim and shirdi wale sain baba.

In fact way of life changed in a big way with teachings of gautam budhha. I hope, this argument brings you closer to undertanding of hinduism !

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Brahmins has its antipathy to fraternity and equality.
Last revolt for fraternity and equality was Sikhism. The beginners to join were all from low cast.
Militancy in Sikhi takes place by the era of sixth Guru, and not the tenth. Militancy was against the tyranny of landlords, (were upper cast Hindus, and not Muslims) but since the protectors of those upper cast landlords were Muslim rulers, it got diversion against the central rule.
Later, to be a Sikh became a tradition. In Punjab you may find two types of Sikhs…a low cast Sikh, surname is Singh and an upper cast Sikh like Chawla, Kapoor and so on. (You are talking of the second one.)

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That would be a shocking news, if try telling it to some Indian. And I again I request you to not use derogatory terms for anything related to faiths.

And please go through some history book about khalsa panth. It was started by last guru , Guru govind singh jee. And he only gave this surname of "singh" to all khalsa. So never ever even talk about a khalsa not being "singh". And all the chawlas and kapoors , you are talking about are non-khalsas or in other words punjabi hindus. So please refrain from making ignorant comments about such sensitive issues.

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Thanks for advising me to study!
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you are most welcome . Please feel free to contact me , if you wanna know more.

peace and love!

In cannot understand the concept of untouchables in Hindu religion, if this religion is really great.

Let us talk of cast system.
Please open any matrimonial column of any newspaper. And you find it there.
(I am talking of today’s newspapers, and not of any 19th century.)

Cast system has changed in some metropolitan cities to some extent, not because of public awareness, but because there was no other way out. It was an outcome of modernization and scientific progress. Though the mentality did not change.
You have heard of Ambedkar. He joined Buddhism. Gandhi requested him to stay back. He asked Gandhi to let his followers take oath that one of their family members will marry a low cast and off course in veil.
You cannot ignore Cast system and boast of Hinduism.

This is hypocrisy when you talk big of knowledge, greatness of religion, boast of some way of life in your religion and at the same time remain a castist.

I am no more interested in digging the history, as you have all reasons to reject the facts.

How much Hindu religion is great?

Can a household progress where women are not respected?
In how many Indian homes, and off course in Hindu homes women are actually respected?

Do not tell me that at some funny festivals all male members touch feet of their mothers and elder sisters, I am talking of day to day respect, freedom etc.

Dear Indian teen, India is a unique country in the world where women, elderly women and pregnant women are not offered a seat in a tight public transport.

This you call a great religion and a great culture or a way of life!

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In cannot understand the concept of untouchables in Hindu religion, if this religion is really great.

Let us talk of cast system.
Please open any matrimonial column of any newspaper. And you find it there.
(I am talking of today’s newspapers, and not of any 19th century.)

Cast system has changed in some metropolitan cities to some extent, not because of public awareness, but because there was no other way out. It was an outcome of modernization and scientific progress. Though the mentality did not change.
You have heard of Ambedkar. He joined Buddhism. Gandhi requested him to stay back. He asked Gandhi to let his followers take oath that one of their family members will marry a low cast and off course in veil.
You cannot ignore Cast system and boast of Hinduism.

This is hypocrisy when you talk big of knowledge, greatness of religion, boast of some way of life in your religion and at the same time remain a castist.

I am no more interested in digging the history, as you have all reasons to reject the facts.
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Do you think repeating just one thing again and over again can be substituent for logic. What point your are trying to make , when I already said , it has some evils and worst of the evils is cast*e*-system/untouchability; But it does not mean that everything else is bad also. Think rationaly and try to put your points in light of proper logic.

What do you think of Ayurveda/ Yoga ; About which modern science has no doubt being one of the best achievements of civilized people, understanding the intrinsic equations of body functioning.

Go through Upnishdas/Vedas/Puranas. They tell us more about how to live life in a better way as an individual/ as a society , than anything else. I hope you get answer for your questions.

Peace and love !

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*Originally posted by fantoosh: *
How much Hindu religion is great?

Can a household progress where women are not respected?
In how many Indian homes, and off course in Hindu homes women are actually respected?

Do not tell me that at some funny festivals all male members touch feet of their mothers and elder sisters, I am talking of day to day respect, freedom etc.

Dear Indian teen, India is a unique country in the world where women, elderly women and pregnant women are not offered a seat in a tight public transport.

This you call a great religion and a great culture or a way of life!
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Again it shows your ignorance and unfounded ideas about India. Women have always been given the highest place in Indian way of life.
It's time for you to check some stats and facts. Now in modern India, girls are rather ahead of boys in many areas. In past few years percent of successful girls have been higher than that of boys in 'O' level and 'A' level exams. And you can find sizeable population of females in corporate world.

Also you tried to relate status of woman in India with hindu religion. And my friend you are gravely mistaken. In fact woman is considered mother and mother is placed above father and anybody else in family.

FYI , you know , why cow is revered in Hindusim ? Cow is considered mother of all of us. As we share the milk , that should ideally be calf's only. So much is the high place for mother.

And finally, using a word like "funny" shows whats going on inside your mind , while writing all this. Inveterated hate would not take you anywhere. Try to think rationaly and try to be open to other ideas as well!

Hope this helps you!

Peace and love!