Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

[yo_wasim]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@justahumane

Brother it seems that U are not a muslim thats why U are asking this question, U are ignorant about Islam. Islam forbids boundries among muslims, Muslim has to be loyal to Ummah rather than country he is living in. Those muslims who love pakistan by heart are indeed true muslims and are doing nothing wrong but following their religion w ithout hypocricy. They may be termed as traitors according to Indian laws , thats another question. But islamically no one can prove that they are doing any wrong thing by loving pakistan over india coz later is indeed a kufr regiem. Its another things that this kufr regiem gives more rights to its muslim minorities rather than most of so called Islamic/munafiq regiems.

Thanks

My only advice is being a Muslim refrain from saying the bold part.

[Babuji]

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@ehsan

So what are you saying, that muslims in Lucknow and Hyderabad are Paksitanis at heart and that they should be kicked out of India. In that case you need to look into the the reasons as to why the people who chose to stay in India are now so furstrated with that state that they are siding with Pakistan. Something wrong there, isnt there?

No, what I am saying is that I have lived in Muslim dominated areas and know that there are no legitimate reasons for them to feel frustrated. True, there are extremists in the Hindu religion who say a lot of things. But you also have people like Bukhari & the mullahs at Deoband to counter their rhetoric. Thats part of a secular democracy where all religious groups have a freedom to voice their opinion.

If the people who stayed back were expecting an Islamic state in India post 1947 and thats why they stayed back, I am sorry they are disappointed Any sane person would have known that they would always be a minority group in a Hindu majority state.

But if for whatever reason they are so frustrated that they resort to anti-national behaviour, they dont deserve to live in India.

[justahumane]

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@Captain1

Guys, refrain from personal attacks!

Resected modrator,

U have deleted my post along with some others, may I know what was in my post which can be termed as personal attack on anyone or anti islamic? Or did I use some bad language in that post? plz let me know so that I can tender my apology to the resected members of this forum.

Thanks

[Captain1]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@justahumane

Brother it seems that U are not a muslim thats why U are asking this question, U are ignorant about Islam.

Tells a lot about comprehension.

[Captain1]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@justahumane

Resected modrator,

U have deleted my post along with some others, may I know what was in my post which can be termed as personal attack on anyone or anti islamic? Or did I use some bad language in that post? plz let me know so that I can tender my apology to the resected members of this forum.

Thanks

Next time you should send a PM to ask such questions. Your posts were related to the attacking posts, hence removed.

[justahumane]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@yo_wasim

My only advice is being a Muslim refrain from saying the bold part.

Brother I m not a muslm but a hindu, a kafir.

And I just persumed that the respected member who is asking such a question doesnt know much about islam, anyways I will follow ur kind advice irrespective of being a muslim.

thanks

[Captain1]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@Babuji

But if for whatever reason they are so frustrated that they resort to anti-national behaviour, they dont deserve to live in India.

I have sorta lost track of your discussion... are you saying resisting a song which has Hindu flavor is anti-national behavior?

[justahumane]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@Captain1

Next time you should send a PM to ask such questions. Your posts were related to the attacking posts, hence removed.

Okay resected sir, U wont have a complaint next time Inshallah.

[Babuji]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@Captain1

I have sorta lost track of your discussion... are you saying resisting a song which has Hindu flavor is anti-national behavior?

Yes, since that song is officially designated as the Indian National Song. Clear ??

[yo_wasim]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@justahumane

Brother I m not a muslm but a hindu, a kafir.

And I just persumed that the respected member who is asking such a question doesnt know much about islam, anyways I will follow ur kind advice irrespective of being a muslim.

thanks

If your not a Muslim then its ok go ahead and call Muslims also Kafirs, wont affect you in any means that was a humble request from a Muslim brother to other.

[yo_wasim]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@Babuji

Yes, since that song is officially designated as the Indian National Song. Clear ??

Complete it indian national song but rejected by the Indian Parliament. How sad:teary1:

[Babuji]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@yo_wasim

Complete it indian national song but rejected by the Indian Parliament. How sad:teary1:

Well, if you really live in India you should know that the Parliament is also comprised of people whose survival depends on minority votes And most of their decisions are governed by survival instincts.

Similarly, it is going to be mandatory in the BJP ruled states since they have their own agenda.

[justahumane]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@yo_wasim

If your not a Muslim then its ok go ahead and call Muslims also Kafirs, wont affect you in any means that was a humble request from a Muslim brother to other.

I took that as an advice from a brother in humanity to other brother, and already gave my consent in trying to fo llow it. BTW I dont like personal attacks on anyone, I m sorry if I said something wrong but that was not intentional. I again request U to understand that I just presumed that the gentleman is not a muslim like me and doesnt know much about islam, and i just tried to remove his doubts.

[yo_wasim]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@Babuji

Well, if you really live in India you should know that the Parliament is also comprised of people whose survival depends on minority votes :) And most of their decisions are governed by survival instincts.

Similarly, it is going to be mandatory in the BJP ruled states since they have their own agenda.

Agreed.

[anjjan]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@yo_wasim

Anti national feelings:hoonh: lol

Babuji, forget about anti national feelings, but being practical what about politicians, the goons in India well all of them are anti national and an antipathy towards India. Should we kick out all of them.

Do you include Muslim politician in the list as well? And what about the Imams who play politics begind religion?

[anjjan]

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At last the BJP idiots have understood that nothing can convince Muslims and have taken back their stand.
I congratulate Muslims for being totally stubborn till last as usual.

What we have often seen that Muslims very easily misuse the secular and democratic rights in non-Islamic countries……the rights they never give to their minorities in Islamic states.

And for this reason many secular Hindus, as well as secular citizens of other non-Islamic states, are taking a U-turn in their attitude in relations towards Muslims.

[Babuji]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@anjjan

What we have often seen that Muslims very easily misuse the secular and democratic rights in non-Islamic countries……the rights they never give to their minorities in Islamic states.

And for this reason many secular Hindus, as well as secular citizens of other non-Islamic states, are taking a U-turn in their attitude in relations towards Muslims.

^ Totally agree. Infact this article from Outlook talks about how Modi is re-emerging as the face of BJP, thanks mainly to the attitude of our ‘minorities’.

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20060904&fname=BJP+%28F%29&sid=1

[vineshvk]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@Captain1

I have sorta lost track of your discussion... are you saying resisting a song which has Hindu flavor is anti-national behavior?

No..resisting a song with natinalistic flavor is anti national behaviour. What is the problem with some muslims in singing vande matharam. They dont even like the idea of saying vandematharam. Why cant muslims bow to their mother who brought them to earth.

[quas]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

If muslims in India are frustated, forming another Pakistan or a sovereign muslim nation carved out of India could be a solution and I think anyone who's oppressed has a right to voice his/her opinion- I really don't give a damn about another muslim nation in the subcontinent cuz we already have 2. But I would request that the lovers of MQM and mota altaf please join the new muslim nation and leave our beloved Pakistan as they might be feel less violent in the new "Pakistan" or "Urdustan" living with their Bhindian muslim brothers practising *********ed Lucknowi shero-shayari culture.
We Punjabis were happy before partition in the (west) Punjab and partition brought a lot of chor, thugs from Agra, Delhi, Lucknow who never embraced Pakistan yet and yet talk of being a muslim. We accepted their language(Urdu) but sadly they never make an effort to learn Punjabi.

[Captain1]

Re: Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

@vineshvk

No..*resisting a song with natinalistic flavor is anti national behaviour. *

No, you are looking at the issue with you own glasses. There is nothing wrong with "nationalistic" songs, not a single scholar in Pakistan has raised an issue about nationalistic sounds as against religion.

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What is the problem with some muslims in singing vande matharam. They dont even like the idea of saying vandematharam. Why cant muslims bow to their mother who brought them to earth.
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Again, if the song is just 'nationalistic' then no problem, but if it conflicts with religion then those with religion as their priority will speak and are speaking. If Muslims are not allowed to bow to any other entity than Allah then thats that. Doesn't matter how respectful you are to your mother, you can't equate her to God, she didn't "create" you.