Hindu Extremistism against Hindus

Frustartion … that perhaps is the best way to explain your reaction … with the evidence (from Pakistani sources :D) coming out that people responsible for blasts in Pakistan are the same as the ones who were nurtured to fight India in Kashmir … well it bring back the age old saying "as you sow so shall you reap "

DAWN.COM | Pakistan | ?Red book? on terrorists compiled

Perhaps if you were familair with the “freeodm struggle” in Kashmir … you would be familiar with these names …

According to intelligence agencies, the three masterminded the Marriott bloodbath. Ibraruddin and Mohammad Imran are members of the Harkatul Mujahideen (HUM) while Rana Ishfaq belongs to Harkatul Jihad Islami.

The HUM was active in occupied Kashmir during the late 90s.

^^ There are terrorists who claim to be Muslim and who are killing innocent people - mostly Muslims, but also occasionally non-Muslims - there is no denying that! And this is what we hear 24/7 on the media (BTW. we also know who finances/trains/arms those terrorists).

But what we almost never hear on the media is that there are Hindu terrorists who are killing fellow Hindus. And your media, govt., writers, scholars and also other fellow indians are doing a tremendous job to hide that under the carpet!

I must admire your remarkably successful effort!

But that does not change the fact! :)

If you really cared you would have got the answer .... the attacks by hindu terrorist are so rare that it is possible you might have missed them in all the news about the carnage by the one in Pakistan (not hindu of course :D).

Let us take an example .... taking last ten days as a yard stick .... just count the death toll in attacks by terrorist in Pakistan (guess it would be 150-200) .... compare that with the attacks by hindu terrorist (2 !!!!) ... you will get the answer .... you can do the same example for last six months or six years or sixty years . If you need help in compling that ... i will surely provide you assissatance on facts and figures on number of people killed by hindu terrorist and those killed by Pakistani ones (not to infuriate sensibilities ... will repharse it to Pakistan based).

On the questions of them being muslims or not ... well they say the same thing about you .....

If I use your pathetic logic then Pakistan is having daily massive diwali I guess.
I am not in denial. But I know the situation in India, so I am confident that Indian police will take actions against these people and get them behind bars. India doesnt have a state policy which believes that these people are an asset that could be used against our neighbor.

Lagta hay zara zoor say lag gayee

Pakistan is not in denail mode, the devali for the terrorist can heard and seen loud and clear in SW... now coming back to the topic, do you have anything sensible to add, apart from your pathetic indian logic?

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**Minister’s wife probed for links with Hindu group

**2009-10-19 16:05:39
Last Updated: 2009-10-19 16:22:48 Panaji: Goa Home Minister Ravi Naik on Monday said the police would probe the links of the state transport minister’s wife with a Hindu group blamed for an explosion that killed two of its members.
Addressing reporters at his residence, Naik said that everyone involved with the Sanatan Sanstha was being investigated. The Goa transport minister is Ramkrishna alias Sudin Dhavalikar.

Two killed in bomb blast in Margoa

We are probing everyone. We know that Jyoti Dhavalikar is a part of the institution although we do not know in which capacity. I have asked police to enquire, Naik said.
Sudin Dhavalikar is a Maharashtrawadi Gomantak Party (MGP) legislator and is a part of the Congress-led coalition government. Sudin’s brother Deepak Dhavalikar is also an MGP legislator.
Two Sanatan Sanstha activists were killed when explosives they were ferrying in a two-wheeler scooter exploded on a street in Margao, a town in south Goa 35 km from here.

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Nothing new here, wife of an Indian minister has links with hindu terrorists.

Yep and she is being investigated ...not like Muslim Khan ... who perhaps is enjoying the hospitality of his mentors ... or Dr. Usman who manages to get out of police custody and launch another operation :D

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our muslim friends are very happy when they find some other community doing the same thing what their people very often do.....what is this...complex...

If you had long before given this diwali gifts to your brothers in arms, then I guess you would not had them giving you gifts every now and then in your cities. At that point they were an asset wasnt it. Because they were doing diwali in India.

we accept the existence of left wing terrorist organizations, separatist in Jammu and Kashmir and hardcore hindutva organizations and other terrorist cells supported by our neighbors. It is our internal problem which is being handled by state police and para military forces,but samjhauta express explosion is not a handy work of any right wing terrorism or politics, see this link

The Hindu : National : U.N. sanction on Lashkar operative a blow to Pakistan

** U.N. sanction on Lashkar operative a blow to Pakistan ** Siddharth Varadarajan New Delhi: Attempts by Pakistan to link the Mumbai terrorist attack of November 2008 to the earlier explosion on board the Samjhauta Express are likely to flounder in the face of the United Nations Security Council’s decision to sanction a key Lashkar-e-Taiba operative for his role in the 2007 train bombing.
For the past year, Indian investigators, probing the deadly attack on the Lahore-bound train in which 68 people, mostly Pakistanis, were killed have been exploring various theories, including the involvement of the Lashkar.
The unravelling of a Hindutva terrorist cell following investigations into the Malegaon bombings generated leads which also prompted some speculation about their possible role in the Samjhauta incident.
Though the trail of evidence from Panipat and Indore eventually ran cold, external intelligence agencies — presumably from the United States — clearly had information the Indian side didn’t. And they seem to have found the fingerprints of the LeT and the Al-Qaeda all over the wrecked train.
On June 29, the 1267 committee of the UNSC — so named after the resolution mandating sanctions on the Al-Qaeda and the Taliban — slapped an assets freeze, travel ban and arms embargo on Karachi-based businessman Arif Qasmani, whom it described as the “chief coordinator” for the Lashkar’s “dealings with outside organisations” and a provider of “significant support for LeT terrorist operations.”
In a press release, the 1267 committee noted: “Qasmani has worked with LeT to facilitate terrorist attacks, to include the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota (sic) Express bombing in Panipat, India. Qasmani utilised money that he received from Dawood Ibrahim, an Indian crime figure and terrorist supporter, to facilitate the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India. Qasmani also conducted fundraising activities on behalf of LeT in late 2005. Arif Qasmani has also provided financial and other support to Al Qaeda.”
The U.N. said that in return for his support, “Al Qaeda provided Qasmani with operatives to support the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota Express bombing in Panipat, India.”
The U.N. citation of Qasmani and LeT spokesman Yahya Mujahid, which was followed on Thursday by a separate ban imposed on the duo by the U.S. Treasury Department, took Indian officials by surprise.
Senior officials told The Hindu it was evident the U.S. had access to information that it had not yet shared with India.
In the exchange of dossiers between India and Pakistan following the terrorist attack in Mumbai, Islamabad had sought to ‘balance’ the optics of being asked to act against the LeT by seeking details from New Delhi on the progress of investigations in the Samjhauta case.

you know i really like you :slight_smile:
you said: separatist in Jammu and Kashmir

you know what hardcore extreme fundamentalist hindutva organizations will do to you?

if i think about it i get goosbumps make but i am proud of your courage that you said something different then the Indian government.

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These guys are not bigger threat than naxals, kashmiris etc. Certainly not atleast for now. But these guys have to be taken care now itself, otherwise later they will get bigger.

Kashmiris are not terrorists they are only fighting for their freedom.

So you are saying groups like Lashkar E Toiba, HuJI, harkat ul Ansar have nothing to do with Kashmir. Or you are calling them "freedom fighters"

Again old habbit of telling lies
i would request you not to talk on my behalf !!
I want you to tell me when i did endore these group??!!!

If you cannot find any prove then i request you to HUSH!!

So who was responsible for Mumbai attacks :D

Again i request you to stop telling lies
Nowhere u can find me saying anything about who is not a terrorist except Kashmiri Freedom fighters. I never endorsed any group so again will you please shut telling lies about me and concentrate on the topic.

If you cannot find anything about me endorsing violence or endorsing terrorist groups then stop writing nonsense here and with your smile u cannot hide lies.

As usual going round and round in circles .... because you cannot condemn actions by these groups .... which has led to the war like situation in Kashmir.

Again i will ask you the same simple question .... what in your opinion is Lashkar e Toiba , HuJi , HuA ... are they terror group or they are freedom fighters !!!!

I think you are really stupid (moderators i am waiting come on with the warning but i cannot say anything else but this) yes really stupid since u do not read what i write.

Only stupid and biggest looser on the planet can endorse killings of innocent lives. Anyone who is killing innocent lives should be punished. For me Kashmiris are Freedom Fighters who fight for their country. Any other terrorist group which kills innocent people is not a Freedom Fighter.

Just like Indian soldiers who are killing innocent people in Indian Occupied Kashmir.

I can ask you 100 hypthetical questions like you do but again do not put YOUR words into my mouth. Just prove me where i endorse violence or terrorist groups!!??

No one is endorsing killing of innocent people ..... understand that .... Kashmir has had a war liek situation for some time now. People are gettingkilled, it is people invovled in militancy and innocents too. There have been cases of innocent people getting killed by security forces and in some cases action has also been taken against security force personal.

Now the situation is not only because Indian security forces are doing all this. There are militant groups inside Pakistan who have been regularly conducting terror acts inside Kashmir. Once this is stopped, the situation will return to normal. As i even teh EU report has asked Pakistan to do .... it needs to close the terror groups that operate from Pakistan. After all Pakistan has pledged to act aginst these groups !!!

It is not a hypothetical question ... it is a question relevant to the situation in Kashmir. Right now these terrror groups have killed a number of innocent people .... yet you never condem them .... WHY ?