“Hindu extremeists, armed with swords and rifles, are reported to have “exploded houses and mosques” with LPG and oxygen cylinders, and are reported to have been supplied with trucks loaded with gasoline and gas cylinders. They are also reported to have been paid Rs 500 ($12.50) per day, and provided food, water, wine, and medical aid. If arrested, their legal expenses were to be covered by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, and if they were killed, it is reported, their families would be given Rs 200,000 ($5,000).”
The Wisdom Fund 18 Mar 2002
“The people who demolished the mosque at Ayodhya are now senior ministers”
Pankaj Mishra
The Guardian Weekend Magazine April 6th 2002
it is based on religion.... HINDUS are destroying masjids , killing muslims...
and you are aksing what it has got to do with religion.....
it is based on religion.
mods might move this to world affairs or political fourms whatever, but still religion can't be ignored in this news.
"Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Conqueror of Ideas, Restorer of Rational beliefs.... The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"
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Originally posted by Khoon-e-Shaheed:
**Hindu extremism is like sugar-coating your words.
Hindu savagery or Hindu barbarism is more appropriate. **
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As the families of victims of 9/11 would agree, Islamic extremism is like sugar-coating your words. Islamic savagery or Islamic barbarism is more appropriate.
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Originally posted by Nobel:
** As the families of victims of 9/11 would agree, Islamic extremism is like sugar-coating your words. Islamic savagery or Islamic barbarism is more appropriate.
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btw have u got 1 SOLID PIECE OF EVIDENCE??? afraid not even the western writers like robert fisk (of the indepent) say evidence is circumstancinal and wont even stand up in court....
...yo wen u get 1 piece of evidence then come bak n open ur naive mouth!
VADODARA: ** Convert to Hinduism, shave off your beard, drop your rape charges, don’t participate in our functions, let us use your vehicles for free.** These are some of the terms being set by Hindu villagers for their Muslim neighbours who fled after the Godhra massacre and now want to return home.
In Randhikpur village of Dahod district, Hindu villagers wants rape charges against three persons dropped. A 22-year-old woman alleged she was raped in the nearby Panivella village where she hid after seven of her family were killed.
At a meeting on Thursday, Muslims were told that 65 of their families could return if the ``rape charges were dropped and replaced with minor offences,‘’ villager Majid Ali who attended the meeting told this website’s newspaper.
In Pandarwala village in the Panchamahals, where 27 people were burnt alive, No 1 on the majority community’s list is the condition that a doctor who hails from Kutch and lives in the village be expelled. Says Faiz Mohammad, who attended a peace committe meeting organised by the district administration: ``Since the doctor had a computer, the villagers felt that he keeps in touch with the ISI. Our return depends on him being expelled.‘’
In Kadwal village of Chhotaudepur taluka in Vadodara district, Muslims have been asked to agree that they won't engage in the same business as ours,'' you won’t take part in our functions’’ and ``you won’t prevent us from using your assets, for instance, your vehicles.‘’ A couple of Muslim families have returned after they agreed to these conditions.
In Raichha village, about 15 km from Chhotaudepur, 28 families have been asked to convert to Hinduism if they want to return, says Mohammedjafar S Makrani, a former councillor. These families are among the 100 who fled Raichha and are now in a relief camp that he runs.
Villages like Panwad in Vadodara have laid no conditions: they simply don’t want the Muslims to return. They have made this clear by attacking the refugees right under the nose of the police when they came this week to find out how badly damaged their houses were.
Says head constable Jaswantsinh Chavda attached to Panwad outpost: Aa gamma koi condition nathi, emne Muslim joitaj nathi '' (There is no condition here, they don't want Muslims back). Two days ago a Muslim returned to collect his bank passbook and he was attacked. Had I not reached there they would have killed him,‘’ Chavda says, adding: ``It’s good if they don’t come back. So far they haven’t lost any life, now they will.‘’
Even in Vadodara city, at least half a dozen houses of Muslims were torched in Bagwada because they didn’t agree to drop charges against Hindus involved in a case of stabbing.
Says Bhagyesh Jha, District Collector, Vadodara: ``We are aware of these conditions. We have told the people, please don’t do this, sit down and talk it out. There is little that we can do, this has to be sorted out at the community level.‘’
In some cases, like in Panwad, the message has been conveyed through writing on the wall, threatening the refugees that if they return, their wives and daughters will be raped.
It is the duty of the Government to Protect the citizens. If any group/threatens anyone then it is the duty of the government to catch these thugs and throw them behind bar. The government should investigate these reports and do the utmost to protect the rights of Indian Muslim brothers and sisters.
Ibrahim,
I do not support these fundamentalists. If you want them you can gladly take them. Seems they have learnt too much from across the border.
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** Ibrahim says: can any hindu explain this ?
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When you can explain why in Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia religious minorities can have their heads chopped off for bringing in religious material for private use, then Hindus will explain this to you.
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When you can explain why in Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia religious minorities can have their heads chopped off for bringing in religious material for private use, then Hindus will explain this to you.
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got any example?
May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right
ok so they r extremists.
ur point?
cant we have a single thread where we can sling mud at eachother coz we seem to be doing this at a regular pace.
INCLUDING ME muslims have become papertigers
and fight or JEHAD on forums.
The reality is there is good and bad, in every religion. I don't believe that any one certain religion is worse than the others. I also think that when someone does something violent, that it is there own personal effort, and not their religion promoting it.
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Originally posted by bcsm57:
**The reality is there is good and bad, in every religion. I don't believe that any one certain religion is worse than the others. I also think that when someone does something violent, that it is there own personal effort, and not their religion promoting it.
Brenda
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Ok brend according to ur thinkin all religions r correct, so how many gods r there?do we worhsip the cow? or sun? or holy trinity? or sumthing else?? how do we live togeather?? wat rulerz do we implement in society???
and btw plz do not say islam is a religion nor compare it with christainity,judism etc cuz its not a religion its a WAY OF LIFE which is capable of looking after mankind and sloving their problems!
Hindu extemist are pussy cats compared to Our muslim extremists. Hindu fantics are localized in India. For them the Universe starts and ends in Hindustan. Muslim fantics have global aspiritions that not only extend through out this life time, but also into the next...
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Ok brend according to ur thinkin all religions r correct, so how many gods r there?do we worhsip the cow? or sun? or holy trinity? or sumthing else?? how do we live togeather?? wat rulerz do we implement in society???
and btw plz do not say islam is a religion nor compare it with christainity,judism etc cuz its not a religion its a WAY OF LIFE which is capable of looking after mankind and sloving their problems!
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So if Islam solves all problems, then why isn't Pakistan a virtual heaven on Earth?
As for Islam being a way of life.. Agreed, but then if I had a quarter for everytime I heard an Hindu, Christian, Jew, Buddhist, and Sikh say that, I would be rich...
I think all religions can help solve problems. The reason they dont is because peoples ego's get in the way, and it becomes an "im better then you are" situation every time. Once we can control our egos, then every religion can basically be interpreted in the same way. Basically, here's what all religions want you to do, Be kind to others, avoid hurting all living things... That sums up all relgions i think.
[This message has been edited by Adnan Ahmed (edited May 17, 2002).]