Hindko

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*Originally posted by Zakiii: *

I know I just added that for the sake of it.

You are right though in Afghanistan language wise Farsi/Dari is much more popular than Pashto. When the Taliban tried making Pashto the official language even the Pashtuns were complaining, the students (including Pashtuns) in schools/colleges said they couldn?t learn a thing and that it felt odd.

Anyways who cares, Urdu is more beautiful than them all it combines the beauty of Arabic, Farsi, Hindi and others, as Pakis we should put more emphasis on it than any other language.
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I am not gona say anything, who cares i will just not post to your post, i think this is right choice.

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Hey I'm a Pakhtun but my mom speaks in Hindko and Punjabi with her side of the family, even though her Pashto is awesome. Pretty cool :)

Thanks to all that, I'm multi-lingual.

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^
You’re not from Attock by any chance are you? Ever since I heard your voice in audio gallery you remind me of this baaji I had in Pakistan, she went to the same school as me on the same bus, she was like an older sister. You so remind me of her for some reason.

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*Originally posted by Aryan_Shponkai: *
I am not gona say anything, who cares i will just not post to your post, i think this is right choice.
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Grow up man, why do you get so uneasy when somebody expresses views/opinions conflicting with your own?

As far as I know what I said is true, I’m not putting Pashto down or anything I’m just stating the truth, if it’s not true then why don’t you correct me?

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Zakiii (your name sounds too similar to my dear friend Zakk),

your from Attock too, ask any Pakhtun there why its called and written as Hind-Ko, I can assure you, once you get the answer it will be anything but posh :hehe:

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Why is it wrote that way?

I know some dodgy Pukhto words beginning with ko… :blush: has it got anything to do with that?

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Ab bata bhi do...

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*Originally posted by RajputFury: *
**Interesting info. Do you know who actually gave named "Hindko" as a language? I mean I know what Hind-Ko mean in Pashto & what they are referring to, but if you have any info, please do let me know.
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I read somewhere that ‘Hind’ was a province of the ancient Iranian empire and it’s populace spoke Hindko, another theory I’ve read somewhere on here is that Hindko speakers originate from a place called Koh-e-Hind and that’s why their language is called Hindko.

Why don’t you share the smart arse remarks of Pukthtoons about Hindko? :D

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Noo I'm not from Attock. I'm from Parachinar and Tal.

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*Originally posted by Zakiii: *

I read somewhere that ?Hind? was a province of the ancient Iranian empire and it?s populace spoke Hindko, another theory I?ve read somewhere on here is that Hindko speakers originate from a place called Koh-e-Hind and that?s why their language is called Hindko.

Why don?t you share the smart arse remarks of Pukthtoons about Hindko? :D
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Zakii cool it down. no need to highen your temper. just take a long breath.....lashkay saa wakhla....

So now tell me what i should correct you on? Coz i am not just gona let you bark out bad about us. Get it dear.

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^
shudders some of the words u use for fellow males send shivers down my spine. :disgust:

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I quite like the word Prakarat better than Hindko, it sounds so much more Hindustani, I’ve always envied other parts of Pakistan for their association with India, which is so culturally fulfilling and vibrant (I’ve never understood the mentality of some Pakistanis denying the Indian side of our heritage like its some sort of ‘gaali’).

I like the word ‘PRAKARAT’ better than ‘HINDKO’, If it’s really the mother of Indian languages and the original ‘Prakarat’ then it should be renamed back to its original name and efforts should be made to preserve it in it’s original format.

In a lot of villages Hindko is littered with words from other languages, like Pukhto in our village (mor, plaar, khor, baabaa, laalaa etc.) and now there seems to be a shift towards Urdu (abba, ammi, phupho, khaala etc.) and over here due to interaction with Mirpuris, people seem to be adopting their “micky tucky menda tenda” way of speaking which is sad…

Is there any standard Hindko dictionary which perseveres the original language?

I would like some more information on the original script too, the original in which Hindko was first wrote, Arabic script is fine for writing the Holy Qur’aan but we really need to revive the original script used to write our languages. I’d like to have my name printed on a T-Shirt in that script one day, is the style similar to Gurmukhi, Sanskrit, Bengali, Gujarati way of writing with a line at the top?

I quite like this association with the rest of Desiland, it enhances our dry boring culture a bit don’t you think?

-Ashti Al-Prakarati Al-Hindi

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Was Hindko the only/main language of Gandhara or was it secondary to Pashto or something else?

What is its birthplace?

Did the ancient Hindko speaking populace of this region have their own names and naming system?

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These articles make some reference to the Hindko language I’m posting them in case anyone is interested.

http://www.pakistanlink.com/sah/08032001.html

http://www.pakistanlink.com/Letters/98/Feb/20/02.html

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/?page=story_28-2-2003_pg7_45

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I read on a website that Prakarat was a language derived from Sanskrit and spoken in Sindh, so what’s the truth?

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Traces of Hindko can also be found in the Punjabi spoken in the Chakwal area of Pakistan.

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^^ Chakwal, I was trying to remember this 1 city. Thanks sweetiepie for the name.

What Xactly is it that you want spoken in hindko...XTC

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*Originally posted by Zakiii: *
I quite like the word Prakarat better than Hindko, it sounds so much more Hindustani, I’ve always envied other parts of Pakistan for their association with India, which is so culturally fulfilling and vibrant (I’ve never understood the mentality of some Pakistanis denying the Indian side of our heritage like its some sort of ‘gaali’).

I like the word ‘PRAKARAT’ better than ‘HINDKO’, If it’s really the mother of Indian languages and the original ‘Prakarat’ then it should be renamed back to its original name and efforts should be made to preserve it in it’s original format.

In a lot of villages Hindko is littered with words from other languages, like Pukhto in our village (mor, plaar, khor, baabaa, laalaa etc.) and now there seems to be a shift towards Urdu (abba, ammi, phupho, khaala etc.) and over here due to interaction with Mirpuris, people seem to be adopting their “micky tucky menda tenda” way of speaking which is sad…

Is there any standard Hindko dictionary which perseveres the original language?

I would like some more information on the original script too, the original in which Hindko was first wrote, Arabic script is fine for writing the Holy Qur’aan but we really need to revive the original script used to write our languages. I’d like to have my name printed on a T-Shirt in that script one day, is the style similar to Gurmukhi, Sanskrit, Bengali, Gujarati way of writing with a line at the top?

I quite like this association with the rest of Desiland, it enhances our dry boring culture a bit don’t you think?

-Ashti Al-Prakarati Al-Hindi
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Zakiii, I think you and I know the reality, I am surprised that it took you this long to reach it. As I see it, you have consistantly tried to prove yourself to be Pakhtuns yet Pakhtuns have rejected that..Now your trying to appeal on the Indian side. See thats precisely it! Hindko speakers tend to identify themselves with one or the other but they are niether here nor there. Your a separate group altogether, any Attockwal knows that.

In the other thread you bring up skin color issue for the Rajputs vis a vis Pakhtuns, not realizing the racial differences. It's the same way for you all. I am not claiming to be Pakhtun or trying to attach myself by force. Aryan and I have discussed many commonalities, perhaps the future will tell us the reality. Point being be proud of who you are.

Hindko itself in it name identifies you to Hind meaning Indian. As you know, Attock is heavily Hindko speaking although they have tried to attach themselves as Pakhtuns, the Pakhtu speakers have consistently disagreed with that.

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interesting :konfused:

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Somebody seems to have changed their tone, looks like some Chachi thugs have been giving the shoda a hard time.

Our Pathanness is not dependent upon anyone accepting it or not, we are a mix, today way are not entirely Pashtun nor Punjabi, none of us claim to be just like the Pashtuns or Punjabis, that would be kind of ridiculous, there’s differences but the similarities in looks and culture are also there but like you said today people see us as separate and lump all Chachi’s (Arab, African, Indian, Punjabi, Kashmiri) together regardless of ethnic background.

You just want to make ethncicties all clear cut black and white. It’s not as simple as that. I’m not claiming that Chach-Pathans are pureblooded Pathans or Punjabis.

The problem with pseudo-genealogists/historians like yourself is you make your own theories based on your biases, a few articles and your limited experiences and you stubbornly pretend you are right no matter what.

I appreciate all cultures whether Indian or Afghan, and really it doesn’t matter either way who my ancestors were, seriously things like that are only for sad FOB’s to worry about, I have never thought it was that important, I have better things on my mind.

I just believe the theory I do because there is far too much evidence to support it so far I’ve not had anything to suggest otherwise. I don’t pretend to believe it because I think its cool or something, I just don’t want to be denying my background, believe me it’s considered anything but cool to call yourself over Pathan here. :hehe:

Why don’t you enlighten me on our peoples background since your so smart, if you’re right at least it will save my breath at school having to defend Pathans all the time.