Hillary Clinton is reaching Pakistan today.
This is surprising,
Our F.O. said today,
](Redirect Notice)No date fixed for US Secretary of State’s visit to Pakistan: FO
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hypocrites on their way!!
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I hope she is greeted little differently in Pakistan.
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I wish she does not get any appointment with any senior official.
These shameless people should not be welcome in our country any more.
But given what sort of leaders we have on the top, I can only :hinna:
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Who is shameless ?
It is a question ?
Are we shameful?
However nobody praised me for this news before anywhere in media or net.
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She is in a press conference now.What she said some one can post better here.
I saw only one thing.
There was no Pakistani with her and Mike Molen.
It was very nice to see. Even Malkoo N was not there who is much fond of showing his behri boothi بھیڑی بوتھی every where .
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may be somethin like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMBy_OIJM6Q
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What does she mean by reconciliation in Pakistan? :o Since when are Americans so interested in that?
http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/27/hillary-in-pakistan-to-ask-tough-questions.html
Anti-Americanism will not end Pakistan’s problems: Clinton
ISLAMABAD: US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Friday told Pakistan that the country needed to understand that anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories will not end its problems.
“Pakistan should understand that anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories will not make the problem disappear,” Clinton told a news conference following talks with Pakistan’s military and civilian leaders.
Pakistan was left humiliated and angry after an American raid killed Osama bin Laden two hours’ from the capital on May 2.
Clinton said there was no evidence that Pakistani government leaders knew where Osama bin Laden was hiding, following talks in Islamabad a month after he was killed. She said that Pakistani officials had said that “somebody, somewhere” was providing support for Osama bin Laden in Pakistan before he was killed by US forces this month.
She said her visit was “especially important” because Pakistan and the United States “have reached a turning point”.
She added that the US needs Pakistan’s help in negotiating an end to the fighting in Afghanistan and that “for reconciliation to succeed Pakistan must be part of this process.”
While the top US diplomat said no nation had paid a higher price to terrorism than Pakistan, she added: “We both recognise there is still much more work required and it’s urgent.” She said there was “absolutely no evidence that anyone at the highest level of the Pakistani government” knew where bin Laden was.
The unilateral operation has fuelled widespread anti-American sentiment in the country, which has long been high over a covert CIA drone war against militant commanders in the country’s northwestern tribal belt.
The chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, who accompanied Clinton in her meetings pleaded for greater co-operation between the two wary allies in the war against the Taliban and al Qaeda.
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Clinton denied that the meetings, held under blanket security, were tense and said she had heard Pakistan commit to “some very specific action**”, saying the country deserved more credit for its efforts in the war on militants.
“I return to Washington ever more committed,” to the relationship, she said.
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She is very right.
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Lets see what Pakistan does now, as they have committed (again) with the Americans to remove the save havens of terrorists within Pakistan…
http://www.aaj.tv/2011/05/more-to-be-done-against-militants-says-hillary/
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday that Pakistan urgently needed to take decisive steps against militant and those relations between the two allies, tense since the killing of Osama bin Laden, had reached a turning point.
Clinton says that there was no evidence that any senior Pakistani officials knew bin Laden’s whereabouts. But she also said she had asked Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani as well as Army chief General Ashfaq Kayani to do more to fight militants.
“This was an especially important visit because we have reached a turning point,” Clinton told reporters, after meeting the Pakistani officials with U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen. “We look to Pakistan, to the government of Pakistan to take decisive steps in the days ahead.
**“America cannot and should not solve Pakistan’s problems. But in solving its problems, Pakistan should understand that anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories will not make problems disappear.”
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Clinton said Pakistani officials had told her “someone, somewhere” had been providing support for bin Laden in Pakistan, but reiterated there was no evidence of any sort of complicity by senior government officials.
The Pakistan government welcomed the death of bin Laden but was outraged and embarrassed by the secret raid in the town of Abbottabad, where bin Laden had lived for years, as a breach of its sovereignty.
“This particular relationship with Pakistan is too critical and now is too critical a time to allow whatever differences we may still have with one another impede the progress we must still make together,” Mullen told the news conference.
“I harbor no illusions about the difficulties ahead, nor do I leave here misinformed about the trust which still needs to be rebuilt between our two militaries.” said mullen.
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Anti-Americanism will not end Pakistan’s problems: Clinton
Neither will the US interference in Pakistan's internal affairs!
These americans... then they wonder why they are as popular as Hepatitis-C in Pakistan.
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^ lol @ hepatitus
I was watching the footage of the meeting Kiyani looks like about to cry, seems as if he was whacked by the Americans and Zardari was smiling (like abnormals) as usual
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One thing to note as I also wrote in one of my previous threads few weeks back, IF Pakistan had hidden OBL in Abbotabad, would Hillary be going to all lengths to say, "There is absolutely no evidence that Pakistan's higher authorities knew the hide about of OBL".
I am telling you, this hoax was done for US face saving, with the full help of Pak!
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*“America cannot and should not solve Pakistan’s problems. But in solving its problems, Pakistan should understand that anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories will not make problems disappear.”
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Why can't we do the same "Pakistan cannot and should not solve US problems" :)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/28/world/asia/28diplo.html?pagewanted=2&hp
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Clinton in Pakistan to push for greater counterterrorism effort
From Elise Labott, CNN Senior State Department Producer
May 27, 2011 7:09 a.m. EDT
Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton met with the Pakistani president on Friday as part of a push to repair the relationship with Islamabad in the wake of a U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden.
Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is accompanying Clinton for what one senior State Department official said would be a “sober” set of talks about the need for Pakistan to root out terrorists in its country.
Clinton asked Mullen to come with her so they could have one meeting where they are delivering the same message at the same time and gauging Pakistani’s reaction together, a senior administration official said.
“This remains a consequential relationship essential to America’s national security,” said the administration official.
The administration official said they “have gotten a lot of what we asked for.”
“We’ve always wanted more. We’ve always thought more was in their interests. I think from their perspective they have done a lot,” the official said.
The meeting between Clinton and President Asif Ali Zardari was behind closed doors.
Earlier, officials had said Gen. Pervaiz Kayani and Lt. Gen. Shuja Pasha, the Pakistani army chief and the head of the nation’s intelligence agency, respectively, would also attend.
“This remains a consequential relationship essential to America’s national security,” the administration official said.
The Pakistanis “are on thin ice,” a different senior official said. Neither would speak on the record because the trip had not been officially announced.
Specifically, Clinton will tell the Pakistanis the United States is looking for Pakistan to demonstrate a willingness to go after senior al Qaeda targets, take action against factories producing improvised explosive devices for use against U.S. troops in Afghanistan and support Taliban reconciliation, the officials told CNN.
Contrary to previous visits in which Clinton unveiled detailed initiatives on future U.S. assistance to Pakistan, officials said the secretary will warn that U.S. aid is in jeopardy unless Pakistan makes progress on several key U.S. points, and will lay out certain benchmarks for the Pakistani government to meet.
“She is going to lay out in a ‘no-kidding’ way the results and degrees of progress that need to be met on each of these areas to constitute the relationship getting back on track,” one official said.
Clinton had been expected to visit Pakistan earlier this month for more fulsome talks, as part of the two countries “strategic dialogue” that covers more than a dozen areas of cooperation between Washington and Islamabad. But she postponed her visit after the raid on bin Laden’s compound by U.S. Navy SEALs.
The revelation that the al Qaeda leader was living in plain sight for years amongst Pakistani military installations, and Pakistan’s humiliation at the U.S. decision to undertake the raid without telling them, has thrown the relationship into one of its worst points in history, and officials say cooperation between the two sides has slowed significantly.
Officials said Clinton felt it was important not to let the mistrust on both sides fester and decided to make a short visit to deliver a two-fold message: Pakistan is on thin ice with its U.S. ally, but the relationship between the two sides is too important to abandon.
“The fact of the matter is that the international community has been able to kill more terrorists on Pakistani soil than any place else in the world. We could not have done that without Pakistani cooperation,” Clinton told reporters in Paris earlier this week. “I believe strongly it is in our national security interests to have a comprehensive, long-term partnership with the government and people of Pakistan.”
Clinton added that the United States has “across the board” expectations of what they want the Pakistan government to meet. Last week, Marc Grossman, special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, traveled to Islamabad, where he delivered the set of demands, emphasizing the United States needed actions, not words from Pakistan, according to a senior official briefed on the talks. The official was not authorized to speak on the record.
During several meetings with Zardari, Kayani and Pasha, Grossman said the United States was looking for more cooperation from Pakistan in fighting extremism. The meetings were described by a senior official briefed on the talks as “tough, but fruitful.” The talks followed a visit a few days earlier by Sen. John Kerry, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who delivered a similarly tough message
During the meetings with Grossman, the senior U.S. official said, Kayani voiced strong concern about the continuation of U.S. drone strikes against targets inside Pakistan, but he and other members of the Pakistani leadership expressed a willingness to press al Qaeda, conduct joint operations and support reconciliation.
Officials point to enough progress since Grossman’s visit, including the fact Pakistan returned the tail of a helicopter that was left behind after the raid, for Clinton to make the trip to Pakistan.
But they say the relationship between the two countries needs serious repairing before cooperation on areas important to Pakistan can continue. Two weeks ago, the Pakistanis asked the United States to reduce the number of military trainers in Pakistan. A Pentagon spokesman said this week the U.S. has begun to comply and is removing some of the more than 200 personnel who are posted there.
“There is sufficient agreement that we have to find a way forward,” one official said. “But there are a few things that we need to get right as a foundation for the rest of it.”
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Well Pakistani leadership and military used to confuse us, now it seems its the American turn. I dont really get it when they say they want Pakistan to do more against terrorists (in this case Haqqani Network in NWA) but also talking about reconciliation with the same group, how can the two go together?
Besides any action in NWA will ensure that Pakistan will lose control of all Taleban factions (Pakistani leverage will diminish that if its still there), and the whole war will completely shift its focus to Pakistan hence bailing Americans completely from Afghanistan, and throwing Pakistan further in an abyss which would be very difficult for our army (considering their capabilities) to successfully overcome. Maybe then we will need our allies to protect us (and our nukes) from taleban.
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I wish she does not get any appointment with any senior official.
She does not ask, she tells.
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More aid, yees ..... yesss... yesssss... oh yeeeh.. .!
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More aid, yees ..... yesss... yesssss... oh yeeeh.. .!
there are many strings attached now, the army will have to do some special 'program' now for the Americans for the aid...or maybe some 'maalish paalish'...
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and what good tidings does Khala Dollar bring with her?