Re: Hillary Clinton reaching Pakistan today
This aid is more like AIDS 
Re: Hillary Clinton reaching Pakistan today
Khala dollar gave the nation AIDS?? daymn!
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Pakistan list of 5 most wanted terrorists
US handed over a list of five most wanted criminals to Pakistan and emphasized on immediate arrests.
Quoting American and Pakistani officials, an American television has claimed that during Secrtary of State Hillary Clinton’s visit to Pakistan, a list of five most wanted criminals was handed over to Pakistani officials.
**The list includes names of Al-Qeada’s number two Ayman al Zawahiri, Taliban leader Mullah Omar, chief of Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami Maulana Ilyas Kashmiri, Leader of the Haqqani group in Afghanistan, Sirajuddin Haqqani and Al-Qaeda chief in Libya, Atiya Abdel Rahman.
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Quoting American officials the television claims that the US wants to determine if Pakistan is still committed in fighting the war against terrorism or not.
Re: Hillary Clinton reaching Pakistan today
Pakis' mom is here to tell them what to do. Seriously, she came, scolded our higher ups, told them their new duties and left. If pakistani govt or security officials had any spine, they would have refused to meet her. How shameless they must be looking when they were all sitting with their tails between their legs and hilary scolding them.
US should not worry about the list of five operatives they gave. For money, pakistanis would even sell their mothers. Let alone 5, we will act as merceneries to kill 500 if our govt's god US asks. Hell, zardari even said (according to wikileaks) that he wished he could handover Dr Qadeer to US if he could.
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It's very easy for the Americans to give a sweeping statement that there shouldn't be any anti Americanism. Have they really try to figure out why the world hates their policies
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do more
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why not give the H.Clinton to goat lovers:D:
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fully agree with Ali!!!
Re: Hillary Clinton reaching Pakistan today
So she came, she petted them and she asked them to do more and she is going to do it this way till Olympics 2012.. then... a cracker in the London Olympics and we would see all NATO and AMERICAN Forces marching towards Pakistan...telling Pakistan you were warned... and then.. Kyani, Pasha etc will be either leaving Pakistan or would be asking from the people of Pakistan for sacrifice....
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Neither will the US interference in Pakistan's internal affairs!
These americans... then they wonder why they are as popular as Hepatitis-C in Pakistan.
good gouuuuud
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Re: Hillary Clinton reaching Pakistan today
So she came, she petted them and she asked them to do more and she is going to do it this way till Olympics 2012.. then... a cracker in the London Olympics and we would see all NATO and AMERICAN Forces marching towards Pakistan...telling Pakistan you were warned... and then.. Kyani, Pasha etc will be either leaving Pakistan or would be asking from the people of Pakistan for sacrifice....
In that case both will defect as that's more convenient and become 'waada muaf gawah like David headley' for the Americans in Pakistan. As far as sacrificing pakistanis is concerned every one of the rulers and military brass has been bidding/sacrificing them during the past 60 years.
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^^ US won't be needing any wada maaf gawah at that time, don't you know what they did to Sadam Hussain ( their most favorite pet) and to Zain-ul-Abideen...
that would be the fate of Kiyani and Zardari... but like any blind person they fail to see it...
Anyway, i still didn't get it, why was she here? she can convey any message to our elite commanders through her secretary... what was purpose of the visit and what is the out come???
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I think the effect of scolding face to face is much more as compared to phone or through a third party. Didn't you see kiyani's facial expressions yesterday, I sometimes feel sorry for him dunno what promises he has made with the Americans this time and how will he deliver them to his masters because now a defection in the armed forces is looming which we could see in this forum but our strategic Planners couldn't foresee
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Why you don't think for Pasha,
Honest, target of all.
Inside and out.
Re: Hillary Clinton reaching Pakistan today
Re: Hillary Clinton reaching Pakistan today
Why you don't think for Pasha, Honest, target of all. Inside and out.
He need to come out with equal response, i.e., not threatening the politicians, it is given right kind of response of Americans so that they know their limits, unless and until he does that he is nothing more than a person looking for his retirement fund
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You are right, He is the one perhaps among very few looking for those funds.
See what Clinton saying now,
Hillary Clinton did not give clean chit to ISI: US
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The Americans make it sound that Afghan insurgency is controlled by Pakistan, and there are no taleban in Afghanistan. The Americans want Pakistan to take action against alleged anti American forces based in Pakistan, but they wont do anything about the anti Pakistan forces based in Afghanistan.
Salvaging a partnership: ‘New deal’, old fears
ISLAMABAD:
Pakistan and the United States on Friday pushed for a “new deal” in an effort to salvage their shaky anti-terror alliance at the crucial talks here on Friday among senior civil and military authorities from the two sides.
The new deal is designed to address the longstanding concerns of each other on issues which are central to their relationship, officials familiar with the discussions told The Express Tribune.
They said US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s talks with top Pakistani civil and military leadership covered some ground to ease tension but insisted that the relationship between the two countries was “still not out of the woods.”
Under tight security, Secretary Clinton flew into the capital as part of the latest effort to smoothen over strains in Pakistan-US relations following a series of events, particularly the death of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad.
At the talks with President Asif Zardari, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani, Army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and ISI chief Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha, Secretary Clinton was assisted by US Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen.
Clinton offered that the US would address Pakistan’s legitimate concerns in post-war Afghanistan, ensure uninterrupted financial assistance, and consider end to drone strikes if Islamabad took “decisive steps” in the fight against terror in the days ahead.
**Sources said that Secretary Clinton made certain demands which included action against militant groups, which Pakistan is allegedly protecting in a bid to achieve its long-term interests in the region.
It is believed that the US provided a list of specific militant leaders thought to have been hiding in Pakistan. Neither side would share the names, but America’s ABC News reported on Friday that the list includes three senior al Qaeda figures – Ayman al Zawahiri, Atiya Abdel Rahman and Ilyas Kashmiri – as well as Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Omar and Haqqani network commander Sirajuddin Haqqani.**
The list does not only include militants the US wants Pakistan to target. In the case of Mullah Omar, Washington is interested in determining whether he can be a part of political reconciliation in Afghanistan, and is pushing the Pakistanis to facilitate such an outcome, ABC News quoted US officials as saying.
Sources disclosed that Secretary Clinton even hinted at halting the controversial drone strikes in the tribal belt if Pakistani security forces launched an operation against the Haqqani network based in the North Waziristan tribal region. However, the Pakistani leaders stopped short of giving any assurance on it, citing financial constraints and also the likely backlash of such an operation, the sources added.
It is learnt that though the two countries reached a broad understanding on taking joint action against any future “high-value targets” in Pakistan, differences remain on how to execute such a plan.
While the US wants its boots on the Pakistani soil to judge the country’s commitment to fight terror, Islamabad insists the move will invite strong public opposition.
At a joint news conference with Admiral Mullen, Secretary Clinton said relations between Pakistan and the United States had reached a “turning point.”
“This was an especially important visit because we have reached a turning point. Osama Bin Laden is dead but al Qaeda and his syndicate of terror remain a serious threat to us both,” she said.
Secretary Clinton said the United States was attempting to split the Taliban in Afghanistan from al Qaeda, and encourage those militants to reconcile with the Afghan government. While acknowledging Pakistan’s interests in a stable and secure Afghanistan, she noted that Pakistan needs to be more helpful.
“**Many of the leaders of the Taliban continue to live in Pakistan,” she said. “Pakistan has the responsibility to help us help Afghanistan by preventing insurgents from waging war from Pakistani territory.”
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Secretary Clinton also pointed out that Pakistan’s military leadership had committed to “some very specific action” against the militants. “The United States expects Pakistan to authorise a joint action against al Qaeda and its affiliates … there is still much more work required and it is urgent … it is up to the government of Pakistan to take decisive steps in the days ahead.”
The US secretary of state acknowledged the sacrifices that Pakistan had made since joining the US-led “war against terror” following the 9/11 apocalypse. She admitted that those sacrifices were rarely discussed in the international media.
The discovery of Bin Laden in the garrison town of Abbottabad raised fresh doubts about Pakistan’s reliability as a US partner against militancy.
Clinton said Pakistani officials had told her “someone, somewhere” had been providing support for Bin Laden in Pakistan, but reiterated there was no evidence of any sort of complicity by senior government officials. “We are trying to untangle the puzzle of Bin Laden’s presence in Abbottabad,” she said. “But I want to stress again, that we have absolutely no reason to believe that anyone in the highest level of the government knew that.”
Clinton was unapologetic over the May 2 top-secret raid by US commandos in Abbottabad. Instead, she noted that Pakistan has a high concentration of militant leaders. “For the past decade, many of the world’s most vicious terrorists, including al Qaeda’s most important leaders, have been living in Pakistan,” she said.
She tried to address the growing anti-Americanism in Pakistan by suggesting that the conspiracy theories will not make the problems disappear.
“America cannot and should not solve Pakistan’s problems. That’s up to Pakistan. But in solving its problems, Pakistan should understand that anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories will not make problems disappear,” she added.
Admiral Mullen acknowledged that trust between the two nations’ militaries needed to be rebuilt. However, he added that it was in the interest of both countries to work together. “Now is not the time for retreat or for recrimination. Now is the time for action and closer cooperation, not less,” he said.
A separate statement issued by the Presidency said that the two countries committed to their long-term partnership. It was agreed to recommence the preparatory work for the strategic dialogue, the statement added. It also said the Pakistani leadership raised the issue of drone strikes with President Zardari calling for revisiting the policy.
With additional input from wires
Published in The Express Tribune, May 28th, 2011.
Re: Hillary Clinton reaching Pakistan today
I've heard Zardar and Gilani have come out of sajda as Hillary is gone :D
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I've heard Zardar and Gilani have come out of sajda as Hillary is gone :D
Nope, they went to sajda AFTER she left as promise of more aids was made.
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Clinton Gets Cold Reception
Surprise Trip to Pakistan to Urge ‘Decisive Steps’ Against Islamist Militants Lays Bare Tensions
ISLAMABAD—Secretary of State Hillary Clinton beseeched Pakistan to take “decisive steps” against Islamist militants in the wake of Osama bin Laden’s death, at what she called a turning point for the fraying alliance’s effort to fight terrorism and bring stability to Afghanistan.
But her message was greeted coolly in a country that was angered by the bin Laden raid and sees itself as stretched to the limit in fighting extremists that have sown terror within Pakistan.
Officials on both sides say relations are at the lowest point since before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The visit laid bare the growing divergence between the allies, who share the broader goal of countering Islamist militancy and stabilizing Afghanistan, but often differ on who and what groups constitute an enemy.
Mrs. Clinton was joined in a tense, daylong sweep through Islamabad by Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The two were the most senior American officials to visit the country since the May 2 U.S. raid that killed bin Laden and set off a wave of Pakistani anger at the U.S.
The dispatching of such a high-level duo signaled the importance placed by Washington on repairing the relationship in order to help sustain the momentum from bin Laden’s death. Both officials praised Pakistan’s efforts and noted the sacrifices it has made, losing thousands of its own civilians to terrorist attacks in recent years.
But the tension was clear at the start of the first meeting of the day, with Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari. There were few of the smiles and warm handshakes that usually open such sitdowns, and reporters were soon shooed out of the room.
President Zardari’s office said the two sides agreed to work together against “high-value targets in Pakistan,” and to promote peace in Afghanistan.
A senior Pakistani official with knowledge of the talks described them as “better than not talking.”
Mrs. Clinton and Adm. Mullen also met military chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, who in practice wields more power than Pakistan’s elected leaders. The chief of Pakistan’s main spy agency, Lt. Gen. Shuja Ahmad Pasha, attended.
U.S. officials accuse the spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence, of aiding the Afghan Taliban and other militant groups to maintain Pakistan’s influence in Afghanistan and for use against rival India. Pakistani officials insist they have cut their ties with militant groups.
Both Mrs. Clinton and Adm. Mullen were blunt in their comments to reporters after the meetings, appearing at the American Embassy without any Pakistani officials. Adm. Mullen described the talks as “candid.”
“We have reached a turning point. Osama bin Laden is dead but al Qaeda and its syndicate of terror remain a threat to us both,” Mrs. Clinton said. “We both recognize that there is still much more work required and it is urgent.”
American officials say their priority now is to work with Islamabad to see more aggressive action taken against the Pakistan-based militant groups that are destabilizing Afghanistan.
Mrs. Clinton said Pakistan had agreed to take “some very specific actions” on its own and with the U.S. in the coming days. She didn’t provide details.
A senior U.S. official involved in Mrs. Clinton’s outreach effort said the trip was constructive, and that Pakistan has already delivered on some of the things that the U.S. has asked for since bin Laden’s death—including granting the Central Intelligence Agency access on Friday to his compound in Abbottabad to scour for clues.
But the proof will come in Pakistani action, the official said. “You might see a lot of activity by the Pakistanis, but it’s unclear if that will lead to serious operations.”
There is little disagreement between the U.S. and Pakistan on the threat posed by al Qaeda. But Islamabad says it is focusing out of necessity on fighting the Pakistan Taliban, which has launched a series of bloody revenge attacks in Pakistan in the weeks since the al Qaeda leader’s death.
With those attacks Pakistan has also faced almost all of the fallout from the bin Laden raid. The latest came Thursday when a suicide bomber detonated a pickup truck laden with explosives near government offices in northwest Pakistan, killing at least 32 people.
Mrs. Clinton noted the attacks and praised what she called Pakistan’s “tremendous” commitment to battling militancy. She also stressed that Washington doesn’t suspect senior Pakistani officials knew of bin Laden’s presence in Pakistan, and that Pakistan’s leaders were also eager to find if any of their people helped shield him.
Mrs. Clinton said the U.S. and Pakistan were working together to “untangle the puzzle of bin Laden’s presence in Abbottabad,” the garrison town a few hours from Islamabad where bin Laden lived and died.
Some U.S. lawmakers are calling for the halt of billions of dollars of U.S. security and economic assistance to Pakistan, due to concerns that elements within Pakistan’s military and spy service may have played a role in harboring bin Laden.
The raid that killed bin Laden, launched without Pakistan’s knowledge, was widely viewed here as a violation of the country’s sovereignty, and suggestions from U.S. officials that bin Laden may have been shielded by Pakistani soldiers or spies have only deepened the resentment.
Pakistani officials have indignantly denied bin Laden was given safe harbor. They point out that their security forces have captured many senior al Qaeda leaders and a third of Pakistan’s army is deployed in the country’s northwest to fight the Pakistan Taliban, an offshoot of the Afghan insurgency.
A series of bloody offensives against the Taliban in the past two years have left nearly 3,000 Pakistani soldiers dead. Even some U.S. officials acknowledge that Pakistan is militarily stretched to the limit, and it is unrealistic to expect fresh offensives against militant havens in the near future.
**The senior Pakistani official said Washington needed to fully understand “the ground realities” in Pakistan, where anti-Americanism is rife. “We have to be mindful of what our people want when we consider what we can do,” the official said.
“You can’t disregard public opinion,” the official said. “You have to carry part of that in your policy.”**
Mrs. Clinton took a swipe at the conspiracy theories that permeate mainstream discourse in Pakistan. The U.S. is often painted here as a rapacious friend in league with India and Israel and aiming to deprive Pakistan of its cherished nuclear weapons. Other nations, such as Saudi Arabia and China, are portrayed as more loyal friends of Pakistan.
“I think we have some work ahead to try to do a better job to just tell the truth about what we are working on together…I mean, we provide more support than Saudi Arabia, China, and everybody else combined,” Mrs. Clinton said.
“Pakistan should understand that anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories will not make problems disappear,” she added.
Mrs. Clinton’s trip had been kept secret for security reasons and lasted less than a day. The mission has been in the planning stage for more than two weeks, according to U.S. officials. But the Obama administration wanted to make sure that the visit would result in specific advances in the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban.
The State Department’s top official on Afghanistan and Pakistan, Marc Grossman, and Mike Morrel, the deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency, visited Islamabad last week to pave the way for Mrs. Clinton.
Messrs. Grossman and Morrel specifically asked that U.S. personnel be allowed to visit the compound where bin Laden lived. That visit took place Friday, Pakistani officials said.
—Jay Solomon in Washington contributed to this article.
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