Hijab is very old fashion statement

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It is pretty boring and quite bland.

I think women need to work on its presentation, adaptation and work for renaissance.

Women in west need to look for colourful African dresses and try to improvise for more texture and garment and patterns :k:

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Can I suggest something for your verbal diarrhoea?

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Hijab is very old but it's not a fashion statement. Aapko ghalat info di hai kisi ne.

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Their are certain people which get turn on by hijab. So hence it is fashion statement :chai:

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It is part of dress, then it is fashion statement.

If it is an accessory, then it is convenience.

If it contradicts fashion trend then it is a disaster.

The most apt version of hijaab (the fashion statement) is presented in the series by leading character in little mosques on the prairie :k:

The general trend of monotone hijaab is a disgrace for style and presentation.

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Code first understand the concept of Hijab before talking funny Hijab is to cover womens modest not to creat fashion statement and taken as accessories

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Hijaab (scarf) is a part of dress. It is not a certificate of modesty.

Do not confuse it with any self propelled dogma.

I have the right to criticize any person wearing joggers with two piece suit.

I am at liberty to appreciate the sense and sensibility shown by people in their style and fashion.

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Yeah but practicality is not servant to style and trend....

Hijab could be comparable to my armour it serves a purpose...

It does not have to be fashionable or stylish just like my armour sometimes it is more practical for hijab to be dull or even monotone.

Like my armour it is not something you would consider as an accesory it is vital to a purpose.

As for dogma one could argue that armour too serves a simmilar purpose as a hijab in terms of the protection it offers, armour is dictated by strict regulations and enforced by strict punishments, hijab is also bound by strict codes.

Hijab like armour is limited only by it's user it can come in many forms.

While both Hijab and armour can be very decorative thier primary function is still practical.

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Good Comparison :k:

Lets be clear here that your analogy of armour does not mean full body armour. If you meant full body armour then the analogy is faulty. Nowadays full body armour mean Tanks. Ancient days it was metal suit with helmet worn specifically for mortal combats.

Full body armour can be compared with a cloak covering whole body ( e.g shuttlecock burqa etc )

Now if by armour you mean weapon for self defense and assault. Like Fire arm, knife , Sword then your comparison with hijab (dress) is right :k:

For second case you need to keep your armour up to date and with style in order to impress opponents. You cant keep gun of Vasco De Gama and think that it will work fine in Mexico city.

Can you ?

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Well theres the thing Amigo....

Armour will never be obsolete... so long as weapons exist armour will be there too.

And when I say body armour I mean it brother... I am not talking about heavy armaments like tanks etc. I mean the classical body armour of one and one combat worn by men since antiquity and still worn to this day.

To digress briefly armour even in todays time is very varied and the best armies keep a hard core unit of shock troops clad in heavy ballistic armour I am not just talking about kevlar plates, but ceramic plates too and even armour designed to stop rpgs and what not. Helmets are still part of most soldiers kits as are flak jackets (though the term is incorrect)

Agian that is debateable somt body armour such as the armoured ghille suits of the elite special forces in Afghanistan are great in that environment but in the gutter fights of Baghdad then the more heavy armoured panels worn by USMC troops proved vital especially when that unit took part in the action at Falooja.

As for armour being up to date again there is no such thing as out of date in war. I will point out that you are only limited by your own imagination it is still possible for antique weaponry to kill and even overcome modern weaponry. Vietnam is an example when a bunch of guerillas using primeval pit traps and punji stakes could beat even the best of modern shock troops.

As you say Vasco de Gamas arquebus may not be a perfect weapon in modern mexico but as a footnote I am one of the few men in the world these days who still uses the classic composite bow, a weapon far older than De Gama's gun and let me tell you that an arrow shot from a 600fps bow will punch right through many modern ballistic vests like paper.... yet a 7.62 round from the famed AK47 assualt rifle will barley make a mark on such armour.

Armour like the hijab has it's limits but like armour it serves a function and practicality comes before style.

However innovations in design can always be made and I get your point too sometimes it may not seem appropriate for some types of hijab but like armour there is suitable substitute in every environment.

Right now I'm actaully informed on good intelligence that both DARPA and it's UK equivalents are working with various materials to design even more complex composite armour. Some of the most amaxing body armour incorporates elements such as Fibreglass resin, chainmail and Kevlar textile to create a srtong and resilient armour.

Strange that in the 21st century the best supersoldiers are wearing chainmail that would be recognisable to a Roman or even an ancient Celt. Just as Hijab will still be worn by women even though may live in the most modern metropolis.

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Advancement in weaponry and armour is essential for armed forces. This is a fact.

However, carrying Antique or classic weapon is personal choice. You already acknowledged.

Few examples where you have to adopt new and advanced version.

Paratroopers 40 years ago used Para shoots. Paratrooper nowadays use para shoots.

Whats the difference ?

Earlier there was less control on speed, directions and para gliding. Now these devices more advanced with lot more controls in the hands of paratroopers.

You can elaborate it better for reader as you might have experienced the difference.

Now, today a marine would choose the old model or new design of this device ?

I suggest take a look at past adventures as well.

Salahudin' army took Jerusalem under siege during 2nd crusade. They had very advanced artillery as well as defense mechanism. Excellently portrayed in the movie Kingdom of Heaven

Still he was fond of cutting edge swords. Many years ago I saw a fantastic turkish movie about him where he was testing a new sword made for him... First he throws very light silk in the air and cuts into two halves by his sword and then he placed two iron rod and attack rod with brute force and cuts them in two pieces.

So in the end we should follow Salahuddin on both frontiers.

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However innovations in design can always be made and I get your point too sometimes it may not seem appropriate for some types of hijab but like armour there is suitable substitute in every environment.
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Where there is a will, there is a chance to outshine.

God likes beauty. I am positive that he would reward us if we present ourselves in more dignified and stylish way.

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:hayaa: Itni lambi lambi posts over a tiny piece of cloth!

Code-Red, aap apni wife ko decorative hijab laa kar dena koi mana nahi kare ga. :@:

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Here’s what I’ve wondered about:

I don’t wear hijab…I don’t judge those that do. I have several hijabi friends. But I have encountered a few hijabis that will judge their non-hijaban counterparts. For example, I was having lunch one day with two hijabi women (one was a former colleague and friend)…and it blew my mind away when they were talking to one another about how non-hijabis will go to hell…and right in front of me too..as if I weren’t there. I’m not saying that all of them are like that. But for those that do judge…where do they draw the line in terms of clothing? Because hijab is worn so that one doesn’t draw male attention…so what about the bright/colorful hijabs…or the ones studded with rhinestones…or worn in fancy folds…and I’ve even heard of techniques to wear it in a way that flatter your features or slim your face? And what about other things besides the hijab that can also draw attention…colored contact lens, make up, clothing etc? I remember a couple of hijabi friends of mind telling me how they wished I’d do hijab and rewards/punishment…but then one of them (who wears plain/monotone hijab with burqa) draws more attention from people because of her hazel contact lens. :konfused: If modesty and not drawing male attention is the main purpose…then why only focus on just the head covering?

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But I have encountered a few hijabis that will judge their non-hijaban counterparts.
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Just because someone wears hijab doesnt mean they are a perfect human being. Yes there are girls who wear hijab who judge others. Just like how there are girls who dont wear hijab and judge others. Obviously no one should be judging anyone, whether they wear hijab or not

Regarding the rest, yes the hijab should be worn with modesty and people should not go to extremes in trying to look amazing and drawing extra attention to themselves. The wearing of adornments and nice clothing is not forbidden, but it should not be done to attract undue attention. There are no hard rules about what colours and styles should be worn, as this will always vary and depend according to the region where you are living and the culture of local dress. Obviously in a place like Saudi Arabia if you were to wear a red hijab when every other woman is wearing black or a dull colour, then you will stand out from a mile away in red. But in the west a red hijab wouldnt stand out as much, due to the variety of colours people normally wear in their regular clothing here. And above all we should remember its not just about having a cloth on your head, but should have modesty in our dress, in our talk, actions, dealings with others etc. The main reason why we wear hijab is not to cover from men, but because Allah SWT has said so, so our purpose should be to please Him, not just in what we put on our head, but in all our other actions as well, including how we deal with others and what thoughts we think about them. Covering your head does not give you license to think you are better than anyone or that you allowed to backbite about people. If everyone focused on themselves and improving themselves, they would be so preoccupied that they wouldnt have time to waste worrying about what others are or are not doing

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Oh, I never said that women who wear hijab (or ones that don't, for that matter)...are perfect. And ideally no one should judge anyone.....though we make assessments and judgments about things/situations/etc quite frequently. I'm not even criticizing my friends that wear hijab. In fact, I don't tell them what they should or shouldn't wear.....I don't look at their clothing to see whose going to be in bigger trouble with Allah...if I like something they're wearing I compliment them....if I don't I stay quiet. The thing that I found a bit confusing and even funny (due to the person perhaps being unaware or not taking all things in consideration).....was the lectures given on how it's important and how it's done to keep male attention away...and even hearing from a couple hijabi friends the analogy that women with uncovered hair being like fruit/meat with flies swarming around it......but then not considering that other articles of clothing/adornment may even be doing the exact opposite of what the lecture is about. Again, I'm not connecting hijab with being perfect. Yes, you should wear hijab for Allah....I get that.....that's like the foundation of faith (that you do things for Allah). However, at the same time....Allah has given reasons for why He wants us to do various things and sometimes even how He wants us to do things. And if one is going to say that they wear their Hijab for Allah....and then go on to explain/lecutre that Allah wants them to wear it as a form of protection and not to draw male attention.......then that reasoning can be used to discuss other ways (besides hair) that one can draw attention.

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haha. well at least (in my experience) bearded men, and I mean the proper islamic guys not the regular molvis, have never judged me for shaving. I know many that consider beard obligatory but I've never been told I'll go to hell for not growing a beard.

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^Oh that's cuz they're thinking it.....but they don't wanna say it to your face. You know...niceness n manners n all that jazz. :p

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^ beard is sunnah ... not farz

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lol. They will judge other bearded guys though. My friend's bearded cousin and I were once standing outside the mall in the parking lot, and I was waiting for him to finish off his cigarette when a Palestinian guy walked over and gave him a full blown lecture on how he's setting a bad example for muslims by keeping a beard and smoking in public at the same time. The poor guy can't even walk into shops to buy cigarettes himself, he says he gets weird looks lol.

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Phew. Okay Rizla...there's still a shot at heaven for ya.