Asalaam aliakum.
From the language and terminology used this article is from a sect called the submitters (sometimes they call themselves Quranians), they do not believe in hadiths and they also believe some of the Qur'an is wrong also.
They have been declared kaafirs universally by all Muslim scholars.
Period.
What idiots would first call a group of people as 'Quranians' and then declare them 'kafirs'?.
Is it possible that the weak narrations ou are referring to may be injected by enemies of Islam as 'hadith'?.
MashAllah there are soo many sisters here on GS that wear hijab. Chameli may Allah give yu strength to continue what you are doing.
Just one point though. If you dont pray or anything, dont mention it to other people. I know this good time and bad time comes on everyone. The thing is that Allah loves its people and hides their mistakes. If you go around telling everyone that you dont pray(even though you havent been able to pray just in the last few days), then Allah will not hide your gunnah as everyone knows about it. But if Allah is the only one that knows about it, he will hide it.
As far as the issue about hijab is concerned, it is very much islamic. I feel proud of you, that you wear it. There are alot more muslims that dont wear it. Allah knows the best, Allah knows what is in your heart and what is not. Allah tests everyones strengths and weaknesses. I think the urges are just a test and if you pass it inshaAllah and Allah will rewrd you for it.
Asalaamaliakum.
Read it carefully.
No one calls them "Quranians", they call "themslves" Quranians, and are rejected by all Muslim scholars.
funguy, these men know more about the nature of the Islamic decarations upon the hijaab beast better than the females for whom it was supposedly ordained, these pseudo jihadis, you can't fight it. Trust me, mera sar kha gai hain.
I agree Islam is perfect. The Qur'an refers to the sunnah to clarify subjects found in the Qur'an further. For example, the Qur'an does not explain the method to pray. We, as Muslims, look toward the Prophet (S) to know exactly how to do that.
In regard to the validity of hijab: the following Qur'anic verses have beens sited. There is one more which mentions women showing only hands, feet, and face, but unfortunately I have forgotten the ayaah which it appears. InshAllah I will look for it & post it.
That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is Aware of what they do. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to *draw their veils **over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigor, or children who know naught of women's nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed.} (An-Nur 24:30-31)
there are other more prominent translations that say the headcovering in place of veil, should be used to cover.
{O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.} (Al-Ahzab 33:59)
** Funguy **
I am shocked..I always thought and believed that we were obligated to wear Hijab........Where did you get all the info?? PM me the link...
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* Funguy **
I am shocked..I always thought and believed that we were obligated to wear Hijab........Where did you get all the info?? PM me the link...
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Funguy believes that Hadeeth are made up. So that is where he gets all the info from.
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Funguy believes that Hadeeth are made up. So that is where he gets all the info from.
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well sorry to say..but he's making sense..!! :p
Well, isn’t there always some debate about how hadith may or may not be authentic? Excuse my ignorance, but were they written after the Prophet :saw: 's death? This question came up in the religion forum in a thread i started…if i remmeber correctly, someone posted a hadith that said that female circumcision was “sunnah” and then that the hadith was weak and not even true…soooooooooo who knows…not that im saying discard or disbelieve hadith but i don’t think that shud be the #1 source…#1 shud be quran, then hadith, then someone knowledgeable…that’s waht i think..i cud be wrong…it’s all in the best though 
Only hadith I found regarding the hijaab is the one where the prophet (pbuh) points to the face and the hands indicating that those are the only two body parts that should be visible around na-mehram. I never found another hadith about the issue. My question is why was this never SAID (spoken) …If it’s an obligation, it should be stated clearly. HOWEVER, IT’S NOT!!! …I looked at other websites, and it seems like FUNGUY is right!!! …
The problem is that we were never told that it WASN'T an obligation. We were always taught that THIS was what we must do as a muslim woman.... So we never thought that other options existed....
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The answers is simple. We know that Allah has not ordained Burqa and Hijab. He does not forbid them either. Not that He forgot, but in His Infinite Wisdom, He left the matter open for women according to varying environments.
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FG you are wrong.
For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast (and deny themselves), for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in God's praise -- for them has God prepared forgiveness and great reward. Quran 33:35 ]
"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be Muslims) and not annoyed..." (Qur'an 33:59)
The Qur'an says: "Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.
"And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands..." (Qur'an 24:30-31)
Surah Al-Nur (the Light) (24:31) in the Quran states: "They (the believing women) should draw their head coverings over their bosoms...". . Surah Al-Ahzab (33:59) states: "O Prophet [PBUH] Tell thy wives and daughters and the believing women that they should put on their outer garments; that is most convenient in order that THEY MAY BE RECOGNIZED (as Muslims) and not be molested."
And if you disagree with the translation then there is still another way to be sure.Just observe how the wives/daughters of the Prophet lived/dressed etc
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FG you are wrong.
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I wish you had fully read my posts before coming to the above conclusion as I had quoted many Quranic verses.
Anyway, I am cutting and pasting discussion on 24:31 from my initial post...
THE WORD "KHIMAR" in the QURAN:
"Khimar" is an Arabic word that can be found in the Quraan in 24:31 While the first basic rule of Dress Code for the Muslim Women can be found in 7:26, the second rule of the DRESS CODE FOR WOMEN can be found in 24:31. Some Muslims quote verse 31 of sura 24 as containing the Hijab, or head cover, by pointing to the word, khomoorehenna, (from Khimar), forgetting that Allah already used the word Hijab, several times in the Quraan.
Those blessed by Allah can see that the use of the word "Khimar" in this verse is not for "Hijab" or for head cover. Those who quote this verse usually add (Head cover) (veil) after the word Khomoorehenna, and usually between ( ), because it is their addition to the verse not Allah's.
"KHIMAR" is an Arabic word that means, COVER, any cover, a curtain is a Khimar, a dress is a Khimar, a table cloth that covers the top of a table is a Khimar, a blanket can be used as a Khimar, etc. The word KHAMRA used for intoxicant in Arabic has the same root with Khimar, because both covers, the Khimar covers (a window, a body, a table. etc.) while KHAMRA covers the state of mind. Most of the translators, obviously influenced by Hadith (fabrications) translate the word as VEIL and thus mislead most people to believe that this verse is advocating the covering of the head.
In 24:31 Allah is asking the women to use their cover (khimar)(being a dress, a coat, a shawl, a shirt, a blouse, a tie, a scarf . . . etc.) to cover their bosoms, not their heads or their hair.
If Allah so willed to order the women to cover their heads or their hair, nothing would have prevented Him from doing so. ALLAH does not run out of words. ALLAH does not forget.
Allah did not order the women to cover their heads or their hair. He was not waiting for a Scholar to put the words for Him.
The Arabic word for CHEST, GAYB is in the verse (24:31), but the Arabic words for HEAD, (RAAS) or HAIR, (SHAAR) are NOT in the verse.
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And if you disagree with the translation then there is still another way to be sure.Just observe how the wives/daughters of the Prophet lived/dressed etc
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Sure. You may dress as they did (that is if you actually know how they did). But do not be telling us that Allah asked for muslim women not to show a single hair.
Its alright you dont really know what you're pasting.
and neither do you know what I am pasting. :)
You may wana bring it up in halaqa tomorrow night.
I know all there is to know about the topic.Which is why I wear the hijab.If I was ignorant about it I wouldnt be.Happy posting fg.
Listen, I have no qualms about your wearing hijab or not. The poster of this thread asked a question and I felt obligated to share my stance on the issue. This is not about proving you wrong. I guess it is human for two people to read the Quran and interpret in different ways.
I couldnt care less about what you thought of my hijab.I am doing what I believe to be right.In my opinion the Quran has one meaning for the Ayahs.People are different, but it doesnt mean that the ayas change for each person.Nope sir.
yes thanks for sharing your side.I was only pasting what I considered appropriate.But I think Chameli wanted help with the hijab, I didnt think she wanted to get rid of it.