Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
grab the next flight to damascus and make your way to the Lebanese border and get armed by Hezbollah and fight.....
Sorry I missed you post. Did not mean to avoid.
There are a lot of ways to fight. I am fighting the Zionists economically. The more money I and other muslims make in the west gives us more power and in turn reduces the power of the Zionists. That is also a war...but an ecomonic war.
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
24/7 coverage of Israeli propagandists (Mark regevs, Daniel Pipes, Krauthammers) on American television. 24--mother***ing-- 7, son.
Neocons will do anything to keeep Iraq and oil prices out of the news.
Anything.
I have said to you to speak the truth is a painful thing. To be forced to tell lies is much worse.
- Oscar Wilde
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
hahahahaha
That is the worst rationalization I have ever heard. The Israeli economy is a money making machine, and the Palestinians are living in grinding poverty, and getting worse every day. Explain to me again about how you living in luxury is economic warfare? Or is your plan sort of Stealth warfare that will take a century or so to work?
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
I mean hey if you are so brave and shyt, go fight.
hopefully them running with their tails between their legs and hiding shows ppl what these groups really are.
if your actions started a conflict, and you supposedly are the protectors and defenders of the ppl, where is your punk azz now.
Time for ppl to realize that it is in the interest of these outfits to keep friction and keep conflict going, just so they can use that as their political currency, otherwise they have nothing to offer.
Agai this thread is not about whether israel is wrong or right, its more about the disparity between the propoganda and hype, and the reality where hizbollah goons have just gone in hiding. Maybe they are just as big of pansies as their bosses the shiite theocracy of iran and the idiot ayotollahs.
I hope Hezbollah doesn't have any affiliations with Iran, other then those regarding transfer of money & weapons, as mentioned by their leader in one of his previous speeches.
Hezbollah is more than just an organization which "fights" Israel. If you've been to Lebanon, you can see that they play a very helpful role in the society. It offers various types of help to the Lebanese people, including charity funds, free of charge rebuilding & refurbishment of homes after a disaster, free of charge schools & nurseries for the public, and other such institutions. All the while, it remains, a non-governmental organization.
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
That is the worst rationalization I have ever heard. The Israeli economy is a money making machine, and the Palestinians are living in grinding poverty, and getting worse every day. Explain to me again about how you living in luxury is economic warfare? Or is your plan sort of Stealth warfare that will take a century or so to work?
Almost too pathetic to be funny.
You have to plan long term....This is a war against Zionist terrorism and it will last for decades.
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
I mean hey if you are so brave and shyt, go fight.
hopefully them running with their tails between their legs and hiding shows ppl what these groups really are.
if your actions started a conflict, and you supposedly are the protectors and defenders of the ppl, where is your punk azz now.
Time for ppl to realize that it is in the interest of these outfits to keep friction and keep conflict going, just so they can use that as their political currency, otherwise they have nothing to offer.
Agai this thread is not about whether israel is wrong or right, its more about the disparity between the propoganda and hype, and the reality where hizbollah goons have just gone in hiding. Maybe they are just as big of pansies as their bosses the shiite theocracy of iran and the idiot ayotollahs.
How do you know Hezbollah are running? I take it you're on the South Lebanon border watching them, right?
Hezbollah are a guerilla force not a fully fledged military with a combined triad of army, navy and air force. They thus fight their own tactics and not the conventional way to suit the enemy. And as it happens its alledged hundreds of Hezbollah fighters have thus far been killed in the fighting which would somewhat make sense considering the huge aerial bombing they're facing and given the fact they want martydom. I'm willing to bet they'd rather die fighting and take an IDF soldier down with them than run or surrender.
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
my allegations? in the last 1week pluss whendid hizbollah ‘fighters’ go take israeili military head on, they have been lobbing rockets in civilian areas mostly. 500 israei troops are on lebanon border, hey go face them mano a mano if you are indeed ready for martyrdom and are fihting for glory of faith and all the usual crap their delirious leader spews, why hide and have the Israeili military blow up the area.
show me proof of anything over the last week plus counter to what I have stated and I will take my words back.
no eason to get personal, when people usually cant counter the argument they start personal attacks against the other party
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
At least Hamas and Hizbollah leaders are not bhagorras like MQM's Altaf...many are happy to step in to fill whatever positions are left open by the unilateral, unprovoked, criminal and continous assassination campaign that Israel has been conducting and muslim-hating bigots like the starter of this thread don't get to hear about since they are not covered in the cheerleader for genocide against muslim western media and other hate websites...
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
cheetay, I am not talking about the social service side of hizbollah. The fact that they built schools or provide services is not what is getting them and lebanese civilians into this conflict, but their militant side is and that is what this thread is about. they should not call themselves party of god and fight their battles in a way which is contrary to what the protocols of war are per god and the prophet. them lobbing missiles into civilian populations goes counter to how a war is to be fought. Please dont say Israel is doing the same, I do not agree at all with how Israel has handled this and i do not expect that state to behave in a rational and civilsed manner, but that does not mean I would support anyone who opposes them.
This is a query about hizbollah, and how can they be ‘holy warriers’ per say when they cant abide by the basic protocols of a war, and why the words dont match the deeds, you read the statement by their leader and it seems like they are engaged in some hand to hand combat all over, reality is quite diff. They like their other brethren the taliban, have decided to run and hide.
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
wow the personal insults just dont end here, I am a muslim hating bigot because I am concerned that hizbollahs is not there to fight a battle it started and innocent lebanes, muslims, christians and probably druids.. are getting hurt.
as my previous post also noted, thsi thread is about hizbollah and their initial panga and then their hiding like wimps.
mods, I do hope that you are taking notes of these personal attacks by your chaheetays, because I sure am…
P.S. I could care less if Altaf gets blown up tomorrow, you are sadly mistaken if you can provoke me by bringing in a mohajir ‘leader’ int his thread. he is just as much of a buzdil jackass and hamas and hizbollah leaders are.
**This particular conflict, and Israel’s act of aggression on Lebanon, did not take place in a vacuum, and Israel did not act in some spontaneous fashion.
Hezbollah did not surprise Israel with the capture of the two Israeli occupation soldiers. Hezbollah leader Hasan Nasrallah has repeatedly warned that if Israel does not release its Lebanese prisoners, he will be compelled to take Israeli soldiers as bargaining chips. **
And Israel has not been sitting idly by since its partial withdrawal from South Lebanon in 2000. It has not only continued to occupy parts of South Lebanon, but also has been violating Lebanese sovereignty, by air, sea, and land. **
Israel has also been kidnapping innocent Lebanese citizens: fishermen and shepherds. And one fisherman from Tyre - my hometown - is still missing, and at least one shepherd was killed last year.**
Furthermore, Israel has adamantly refused to give to Lebanon a map of the more than 400,000 land mines that it left behind in South Lebanon, and which continue to kill Lebanese children in the region.
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
the question is not at all about whether Israel is right, but only about the lack of alignment between the bakbak by hizbollah leaders yet lack of any real resistance by them.
oh yeah..they did lob a few rockets.
prove otherwise ad I will be more than happy to take my words back, but it appears that those who can not show otherwise can only attack me personally and try to touch some raw nerve by dragging MQM into it, as if i have any loyalty for that bunch of goons
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
LI, I am simply amused by people’s tactics, when you have nothing to counter, attack the person, drag in MQM, what next they will drag in kansas city chiefs and their lack of offensive plays to try and flame me bacchay hain..khlenay doh
btw thanks for yer words of wisdom When i move from a thread I move, dunn mean much. unlike others who are popping veins in frustration
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
these cowards can only send their brothers/children for suicide bombings. they are utterly devoid of hope, and are looking for a quick fix, which aint happening
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
I remember they were showing this old lady who had evacuated with her grandchildren, when asked about her son. She said he has told her that he'd rather die fighting the invaders than to die with his roof falling over his head. He joined Hezbollah and had told his mom to look after his kids if he dies.
One of the Hez spokesman had said. The world had yet to see a lot of surprises from Hezbollah.
I wonder what's to come. For me it was a surprise they were shooting rockets in civilian areas. I wonder what there justification is.
Also I remmeber from the news report that the Israelis have 13 dead bodies of the Hezbollah ppl - prolly used for exchange in the future.
Re: hezbollah, hamas etc etc, big talk but no balls?
1- I am not in south lebanon, but then niether are you so we are both basing our views on reports we are hearing
#2- ppl can die fighting or they can die hiding, just cuz they are dead does not mean they had some kinda grand offensive
#3- as far as sources go, I have looked at all sources, US, Uk, al jazeera, arabnews, you name it, heck even by Hebollhahs own leaders message there is no indication that they are fighting, but just that they intend to.
regardless, idiotic israelis are bombing, idiotic hizbis are hiding and only ppl getting hurt are the innocent lebanese civilians..I pray for them.