Hello Ladies..please pay attention...PD has a question for you girls

**this man Molana Sheerani is a typical mullah but lets remember that in principal Islam does allow man to have 4 wives at the same time..yes he shd treat them equally but i am interested in knowing if muslim women are really OK if their husbands have more wives even if he treats them equally. ..or will you leave him if he marries someone else ?

so that is my number 1 question

2nd question…say if you allow him to marry because Islam allows him, how will you determine that he is indeed doing justice? seems to be unbelievably difficult task..you will be jealous when he will be spending nite with the 2nd wife and will never be happy..i never really understood this justice part. **

http://www.dawn.com/news/1139597/

                                         **[Muslim women cannot object to husbands’ marriages: CII chief](http://www.dawn.com/news/1139597/muslim-women-cannot-object-to-husbands-marriages-cii-chief)**

         By [Kalbe Ali](http://www.dawn.com/authors/298/dawnkalbeali)
         Updated about 9 hours ago
       
     
   
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           Maulana Mohammad Khan Sherani.— File photo




                           ISLAMABAD: Chairman of the Council of Islamic Ideology  (CII) Maulana Mohammad Khan Sheerani has said a Muslim woman cannot  object to the second or subsequent marriages of her husband.

Presiding over a meeting of the council here on Tuesday, he said a woman could not demand divorce if her husband married a second, third or fourth time.
He said Islam had given the women the right to separate from her husband, but another marriage could not be a valid ground for doing so.
The council discussed the relevant section of the Muslim Divorce Act, 1939, and observed that it was against Sharia.
We want the government to repeal this section, Maulana Sheerani said.
[HR][/HR] Maulana Sheerani says Islam gives a woman right to seperation, but second marriage of husband is not a valid ground

[HR][/HR] A woman can seek divorce under various circumstances and Clause (F) of Section 2 of the Act says: “If he has more than one wife, does not treat her equitably in accordance with the injunctions of the Holy Quran.”
Later talking to newsmen, the CII chief said the law needed amendment. The woman could seek separation if she was treated with inequality or cruelty, he said.
Talking about child marriage, he said nikah was justified only if it had been solemnised by the father or the grandfather of the girl in good faith and not as part of a ritual, but “rukhsati before attaining the age of 18 years is not allowed in Islam”.
He said if a man was jailed for seven years, it could not be a valid reason for separation because the sentence could be condoned well before that period.
On May 22 this year, the council had ruled that a girl as young as nine years of age is eligible for marriage if the signs of puberty are visible.
Maulana Sheerani had said at that time that the concept of minimum age of marriage, which is 18 years under the law, was not in accordance with Islam.
“As per the Islamic point of view marriage age is nine years for those girls who have visible signs of puberty and the same is 12 years for boys, but they both become eligible for marriage at the age of 15 years,” he had announced five months ago.
Tuesday’s CII meeting was the fourth this year to have focused on marriage laws.
The meeting also reviewed various laws, including the Protection of Pakistan Act, the National Security Policy, the code of conduct to prevent sectarian terrorism and sex education in the curriculum.
On March 10 this year, the council noted that the laws regarding second marriage by a man in the presence of the first wife were against Sharia.
“Sharia allows men to have more than one wife and we demanded the government to amend the relevant laws where a person has to seek prior permission from the existing wife / wives,” the CII chief had said in the meeting.
Maulana Sheerani, who is also an MNA of JUI-F, had told media after that meeting that the CII had suggested to the government to amend the marriage laws as Sharia has clearly defined provisions of up to four marriages by a man and this was easy to understand and follow.
Published in Dawn, October 22nd, 2014

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

This country is going down the tubes honestly.

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

This pisses me off to the point of not answering. I don’t know what kind of women are okay with sharing their husbands, but I would never allow it. I better be able to have another husband for this to be even a possibility. Unless I can have four husbands, he ain’t getting them either.

It’s not only about jealousy, it is about equality and justice. :stuck_out_tongue:

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

^^ Couldn’t agree more

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

I honestly don’t see anything in Islam that prohibits a woman from divorcing a guy who goes for wife number 2. Just like a guy has a right to this life choice so does a woman. No woman should be forced to stay in a polygamous situation and i have no idea the religious basis of where they get this from. In fact, divorces for really frivolous reasons were allowed. If the couple wasn’t happy they weren’t happy.

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

Ok thx ladies… so from what i am hearing, women in principal cannot stand the idea of sharing their men regardless of their husbands’ ability to do justice among wives

and if that is true, what is your opinion of this ruling of islam allowing 4 marriages?

is it mentioned in quran somewhere that a man can marry 4 women? if so, we cannot change it but we need to make sure we do justice among our wives. PERIOD

but if it is not in quran, dont you think that we need to change this Islamic ruling through ijtihad ijmah/qiyas? I feel it is not fair to woman that a man can have more than one wife at the same time. When this ruling came, there were far more women than men because so many men died in wars. That is not true anymore.

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

Islam allows it as long as he can do justice between or among wives.

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

Sorry not a girl, but here is a reference from quran.

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

Nowadays things have changed. Back then, from what I remember it was done so widows were looked after. There were wars and so women who lost their husbands during this time had no support financially and could not work themselves as times were different. To prevent anyone from casting an evil eye on them or mistreating them - men married them.

But nowadays, it’s just abused wrongly. Men cheat, have affairs on the side and then marry these women using this reference, but they forget that cheating is a big NO NO to begin with. It’s absolutely done for the wrong reasons nowadays, mostly out of lust and just a way to make it look acceptable in the eyes of society.

BUT I could never do this. I cannot share my husband with another woman just as I know he could not share me with another man. I think that this is now outdated in today’s world where women can work, are more independent and don’t necessarily need a man to take care of them.

I just want to clarify a fundamental difference. Islam did not permit four wives. Islam limited men to four wives during the times when men used to marry multiple, and up to 99 and more women. If you look at the allowance of four wives from that perspective, you will find it a huge favor to women (of that time) than an injustice.

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

Just a personal opinion, if there was no restriction on relationships and no requirement of marriage for that, I think majority would opt not to marry, and live in open relationships…

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

Could be done in the Dark Ages, not today. There is zero protection for a woman who is married to a man in multiple marriages. You could argue against it but I can throw 99 cases where injustice is done vs one you will throw at me. Women are not disposable objects. It’s hilarious to me that everywhere scholars and molvis preach that women are not sex objects yet that’s exactly what they get used for. You want to be kind to women? Teach them to be independent.

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

A man doesn’t need permission as far as I’m aware (after all how many wives would even give it) but the maulana conveniently (:rolleyes:) doesn’t mention that the wife has the right to divorce if she’s not happy or doesn’t love him anymore (in ANY marriage, doesn’t have to involve extra wives etc).. There doesn’t need to be injustice or abuse for her to have a “valid” reason to divorce.. EVERY Muslim has the right to a happy marriage..

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

Yes! Nobody looks at that, do they?

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O he mentions second marriage is not a valid reason for divorce. O MY GOD! Makes me mad…

Yes! Nobody looks at that, do they?
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I am not justifying, just stating the fact - so not sure if you are agreeing or being sarcastic :frowning:

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

^Sarcastic. :stuck_out_tongue:

O he mentions second marriage is not a valid reason for divorce. O MY GOD! Makes me mad…
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I want to clarify again, a fact that our stupid molvis conveniently avoid during their dumb play of words.

Yes permission is not required, but informing is required, and first wife can seek divorce based on that. I can quote an authentic rivayat to prove both points if someone wants to know

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

I wouldn’t hesitate to leave him.. To me it’s beyond arrogant to expect me to look after OUR kids and household whilst he’s off sleeping with other women..

I don’t want a part-time husband who would rather be elsewhere.. I don’t want to be in a marriage where I’m not “enough” for him..

Re: Hello Ladies..please pay attention…PD has a question for you girls

Yeah, it’s been “forgotten” that not announcing the marriage/keeping it secret is not allowed..