Heaven for Suicide bombers

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if life was over what would be in the hell ?

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If you read his 3 questions, it is obvious that all his 3 questions assumes that there is life after death and that there is soul.

What he is asking is that ... assuming, there is life after death, soul exists, than if punishment for crime committed in this worldly life is given to the soul after death than what that punishment means, what is the purpose of that punishment, and why punishment? ...

For instance: When a person's life in this world is over and after death their soul could not commit same crime again, than why punishment, why his soul is made to suffer (by Allah's punishment in hell)? ... What is the gain of such punishment ... as neither their punishment could deter others doing the crime he is getting punished for, nor his punishment can alleviate or reduce the suffering of his victim.

(Queer: Am i right in understanding your question?)

So, if I understood his question correctly, than his question is valid.

But his understanding of justice, concept of reward and punishment (on judgment day), and purpose of human creation (that has free will) is lacking. To answer his questions, one have to make him understand (or answer) a great deal more than what is obvious.

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[quote="Sa1eem, post:48, topic:345749"]

If you read his 3 questions, it is obvious that all his 3 questions assumes that there is life after death and that there is soul.

What he is asking is that ... assuming, there is life after death, soul exists, than if punishment for crime committed in this worldly life is given to the soul after death than what that punishment means, what is the purpose of that punishment, and why punishment? ...

For instance: When a person's life in this world is over and after death their soul could not commit same crime again, than why punishment, why his soul is made to suffer (by Allah's punishment in hell)? ... What is the gain of such punishment ... as neither their punishment could deter others doing the crime he is getting punished for, nor his punishment can alleviate or reduce the suffering of his victim.

(Queer: Am i right in understanding your question?

yes sa1eem, that is my question. actually, it was not even a question, more a comment. - vroom wanted to know what the loopholes in the idea of hell is. i'm just pointing out the most obvious stare-in-your-face problem with the punishing people in hell idea - especially if you combine it with the whole "god will forgive everything but shirk", or the "all sins before one converts are forgiven" rules.

like someone said, if everyone had to wait till they be old until the age of reasoning before being exposed to god and hell and heaven idea, religion would be dead in a generation.

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^ The idea of heaven and hell is that all actions by humans (out of his free will) have consequences. He may not get the reward or punishment in this world for what he did but he eventually will be held answerable for his actions. No one is untouchable.

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Implying lol. Actually you just tried to doge the point.

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The point of hell is for misusing life to do bad,

Now you say nothing can change and that is true but your outlook does not emcompas the justice element

Justice is metered out by the Judge

So whilst I can see the possibility of creation being created Machines (with no souls) whose body controls whether they are alive or not doing as they please on the Earth with no recompense. Its upto the Creator, and the Judge since He decides what happens.

Also creation is only possible if something is uncreated. That is whom we believe in and we call Him Allaah. His existence is unquestionably true by the sheer fact we are here. So if the Uncreated created us, its His Justice that will determine what happens

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Peace,

A question: how come peoples came to know that a suicide person is believer i.e., believe in a religion out of many?