Hazrat Isa A.S.

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Re: Hazrat Isa A.S.

@kchughtai

5:116 and 117

In 116, Allah questioned Jesus(as)

And when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?’”

This is the question now carefully look at the detailed answer by Jesus (as) in 116 and 117. It has four parts:

1. I could never say that to which I had no right
2. If I had said it, Thou wouldst have surely known it…
3. I said nothing to them except that which Thou didst command me — ‘Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’
4. And I was a witness over them as long as I remained among them, but since Thou didst cause me to die, Thou hast been the Watcher over them; and Thou art Witness over all things.

we can discuss the highlighted part a little later but consider the answer. He covered all the aspects. consider the last part keeping in mind the original question. why he(as) said that.
‘When I was among them, I was watcher over them but after my tawaffee, You (Allah) was watcher over them.’. it is a declaration of clearing himself of all sort of responsibilities pertaining to the shirk of his people and being oblivious of this fact. If he was aware of this act of his people before his tawaffee then that statement is meaningless.
it is analogous to a person’s statement before his boss as ‘I was aware of what is going on when I was with them but after my departure, only you knows what happened as you were watcher over them.’
This statement cannot fit for first and 2nd coming since in the first coming he was unaware of this fact (making Jesus(as) and his mother deities). he must be aware of that state in the 2nd coming and a prophet cannot lie before Allah. In the light of this discussion, it should be evident that ‘tawaffee’ in that verse could only mean death.

In Bukhari kitab-ut-tafsir, a hadith is mentioned. (not exact wording)
(on the judgment day), some people from my(pbuh) ummah will be taken to hell then I will say
these are my sahaba. Answer will be; you don’t know what they have been doing in your absence. I will say what a pious servant of Allah Isa(as) said: “I was watcher over them as long as I was among them but when you caused me to die then You(Allah) were watcher over them”

Pls note that:

1. the holy prophet (pbuh) used exactly the same wording as is attributed to Isa (as) in 5:117. The holy prophet (pbuh) referred to the saying of Isa (as) as ‘FA AQULU KAMA QALA…” i.e., ‘I will say AS Jesus (as) said…”. So same meaning should be used for both prophets. not death for one and ‘taking fully up’ for the other
2. In this hadith, the holy prophet (pbuh) clears himself from the responsibility of the acts of those people (in his (pbuh) absence)

I have tried to express my thoughts and I hope you will understand.

Peace kchughtai

Ok just one question … When we’re these words said by Isa (AS) … You started the quote off by “And when Allah will say …”

When did Allah say that? I’m looking for a date … That will confirm for me the proof that you have been asserting.