Hazrat Isa A.S.

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Re: Hazrat Isa A.S.

@kchughtai

aoa bro, Yes we know that but there are no reliable hadiths AFAIK that tells us that Jesus(as) is alive, he ascended to heavens and alive up there. The hadiths talks about ‘Nuzul’ but there is no explicit mention of descent from skies. ‘Nuzul’ has been used in Quran for other meanings as well. for instance. it has been used for iron in 57:25 and for cattle in 39:7 as the blessing of Allah. your assertion that concept of jesus (as) being alive up in heavens doesn’t conflict Quran is untrue.

We firmly believe that Jesus(as) was born fatherless and his mother was a very pious lady and his fatherless birth was not just a miracle but a warning sign to the bani israel. having said that, I would reiterate that we are not bringing science here. Yes, there could be many realities scientific or otherwise that are still hidden from us. but there are various realities mentioned in the Quran that we cannot ignore and just rely on hadiths.

Peace kchughtai

You didn’t answer my question, why is it considered hidden science about Isa (as)'s birth and not hidden science about his Ascension and living without death thus far?

Your reasoning in the first part of your answer is a typical logical fallacy, of the form Red Herring
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herring.html

You introduced the topic of Nuzul, when I was talking about him (as) being alive, by saying that the Qur’an makes other items also classed as Nuzul, therefore you have made another fallacy with an inappropriate analogy claiming that because this applies to this therefore my conclusion is wrong … Without qualifying the relationship. Then you conclude somehow after talking about Nuzul and random other matters that my claim of Qur’an not conflicting with Hadith on this matter is untrue …how you came to that conclusion without even addressing the Hadith or the Qu’an on the matter of him(as) being alive is beyond me …