Hazrat Isa A.S.

[Mr.Popat]

Re: Hazrat Isa A.S.

@FairysAngel

Just for a minute, keep all translations aside and by using any translation software lets translate " die a natural death" from arabic to english than its vice versa. Lets see how translated words occure. Do post snap-shot of the link of translation site.

Wait wait wait!

The verse make lot of sense to me thats why I asked.

Anyhow, Why would Allah ‘take up’ soul only? Where does in Qur’an its mentioned? Others are saying Allah has taken Hazrat Isa a.s. as whole, not his body nor his soul but as whole. While you are saying only soul?

If I am not wrong than in you previous post, somewhere you said Hazrat Isa a.s. not crucified not killed, Right? If so than the body and soul both should be here. If soul is taken than where is body? If Allah taken his soul by sleep than where was the body kept and why kept?

If Allah caused (given) him death than under what circumstances? How? by hands of enemies? I don’t think so because Allah Said in Qur’an “they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him…”

As far I am aware that no Prophet were killed by hands of any enemies? Than why Hazrat Isa a.s. were killed or caused to death?

P.S. the last two paragraph in response of your criterias.

No, the verse does not make sense to you. It does not make sense to anyone the way you translate it.

Allah only take up souls as i quoted that verse many many times here. Here is the verse again :

39:42 Allah* takes away* the souls of human beings at the time of their death; and during their sleep of those also that are not yet dead. And then He retains those against which He has decreed death, and sends back the others till an appointed term. In that surely are Signs for a people who reflect.

These are the 2 ways of Allah taking away the soul. Notice in the above verse, the same word “yatawaffa” is used which is used for Jesus(as). The word in its literal sense means take away/up. You are to ask yourself what is taking away/up? Its the soul. If you’ve been reading my posts on this thread, you’ll find me quoting some verses from Quran which uses the term ‘tawaffee’ and this action of tawaffee ( taking up ) is always taken as taking up ones soul. In every verse in Quran where you’ll find that term, it is meant as taking up ones soul. Why? because Allah sets a rule in the above verse. He ‘takes away’ souls in 2 cases. Either death or during sleep. There is no other mention of taken oneself as a whole.

I do not care about what others say about Jesus(as). I am not answerable to them. I’m answerable to Allah almighty of my beliefs and my understanding of Qur’an. I am more than willing to review my beliefs if one can provide me from Qur’an why I’m wrong. Quran is the standard. Bring your evidence from Qur’an and I will be with you. The whole world can believe in whichever fantasy they want to believe in, if Allah and his messenger and in Qur’an it doesnt approve of it, I will not believe. It’s as simple as that.

Yes, only His soul was taken. Soul is only taken in either death or sleep. If hes not asleep, then he died.

Yes. I did say that jews were not able to kill him nor did they crucify Him. Its in Quran. Why would I say He got killed by Jews? He(as) never did. He died a natural death. He was not killed nor crucified by Jews. Just because both of them did not happen, does not mean one is taken up bodily. If I were to say to you, this man will not be killed, or crucified or hit by a truck, why should it otherwise mean that the person will be taken up to heavens? It simply means He will not be killed by the means mentioned, but it does not stop him from dying a natural death.

He was not caused to death. He (as) lived His life and died when death was destined for Him by Allah. Theres no rocket science in it. He died. Therefore, His body remains on Earth, while His soul departs from this temporary world, like any other human being. You need to speak to your scholars about your firm belief first. Dont fall prey of your scholars feeding you whatever, and dont keep buying it. Allah sent Quran for a reason. It is not to be handed to some scholars and let them tell you what it should mean. A true Muslim would read the Quran and would reflect and ponder upon it. If hes sleeping? No, He cant be sleeping. The body remains on Earth. In your belief, the body is not. Contradiction after contradiction..

Also, to add to your knowledge, there have been messengers sent to bani israel which were killed by fanatics. Please read the following verse :

And verily, We gave Moses the Book and caused after him Messengers to follow in his footsteps; and to Jesus, son of Mary, We gave manifest Signs, and strengthened him with the Spirit of holiness. Will you then, every time a Messenger comes to you with what you yourselves desire not, behave arrogantly and treat some as liars and slay others?

Jesus son of Mary (as) died. He (as) was no more than a human being like us. He walked, slept, roamed around in markets, ate just like us. To keep him alive for 2012 years is making a fool out of yourself.